RE: I can feel your anger
July 6, 2012 at 4:32 pm
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2012 at 4:34 pm by CliveStaples.)
(July 6, 2012 at 4:11 pm)Skepsis Wrote: Little curious as to why you didn't simply understand it, as I'm using the definition in a way not dissimilar from the way you are using them, besides how I defined why a set must inform its subsets,
You just used the word "cornerstone" a bunch, with a bunch of vaguely-referenced implicit relationships between beliefs. It's easier if you just give the explicit relationship.
Quote:You now have to explain why everything in the world ins't motivated by a-unicornism. If a set of beliefs were a-unicornistic, they would be motivated by a-unicornism. Basically everything fall under a lack of any belief, and so your classifications are useless.
Not useless, I think--at least, not because of the structure of it. Some motivations are more interesting than others. A-unicornism is a trivial motivation because nobody believes in unicorns. Atheism is not a trivial motivation, because many people aren't atheists.
Quote:Cool, can I dismiss your objections by simply saying "That's all a bunch of bullshit"?
Sure! It would actually be one of the most polite responses I've gotten on this forum.
Quote:If you include atheism as a set despite the fact that it is a lack of belief, and you claim that sets are given meaning by the propositions included in them, then a-unicornism is a conglomerate of every single belief in existence besides the belief that unicorns exist and the subsets of that belief.
You are spouting a bunch of nonsense.
It seems that you're mistaken about something. What set, exactly, do you think I've defined "atheism" to be? Because I haven't actually defined it as a set of propositions; it's a class of belief systems (for like the seventh time).
A-unicornism would be, what, the collection of all belief systems that don't implement unicornism? That's not a very interesting partition of belief systems. But there's lots of uninteresting partitions of belief systems. Wake-up-at-6:00-am-and-do-12-pushups-while-singing-Hello-Dolly-ism and a-Wake-up-at-6:00-am-and-do-12-pushups-while-singing-Hello-Dolly-ism are another uninteresting partition.
“The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.”
