I can feel your anger

[Gambit]

Quite true, being right doesn't neccesarily make you a nice person.

It doesn't however stop you being right.

But it takes religion to create this shit

http://www.icr.org/

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&...5tFNy7Q0wA

And when you try to deny reality to maintain your baseless belief in a stone age creation fairytale and worse, try to pass it off as a credible alternative then you will earn my considerable ire.

Claiming to be right without justification seems to be another shared trait of some atheists and theists.

I respect these theists more as at least they follow a code, some atheists read a few books, use some flawed arguments and claim to possess 'truth'. All very dire.

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Yeah people can kill for any reason, even if the reason is 'fun'. Yobbos around here attack people for fun. Their completely amoral.

The point I'm making is that you can't really kill for atheism. You're killing for a lack of belief essentially. Besides, how has Stalin killed for atheism? Just because he was an atheist doesn't automatically mean he did it for that reason. He killed many atheists too. The religious in the past actually and openly announced why they did what they did.

I'm guessing you're attempting to imply I'm immoral for daring to criticise atheism. Interesting that you think that, if your claim uses any form of logic to reach your conclusion you should be able to defend it without claiming I'm immoral or just giving out pointless insults. Why do people on forums think others give a shit on how they're viewed?

Where did I say Stalin killed for atheism? I said people use any reason to justify killing, blaming religion is all too easy.

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OK, then why not call it what it is? Some people are arrogant; whether they are atheist, theist, agnostic or otherwise. I've already stated that I don't like how some of Hawking's theories are so readily accepted, just because of who he is. I don't wish to labor the point, but he does have a lot more credibility than some evangelist preacher who claims to have God's power to heal.

I think any atheist who attempts to portray their views as 'correct' and belittles any non-atheist as deluded simply because they don't hold the same view is arrogant.

Somehow Hawking's belief transcends what it is, it's just another person's belief. If people think it holds more weight, this is where scientists begin to replace ministers/priests, which is in itself, ironic.

Also, while I agree with a lot of what militant atheists do; at least in their doggedness at stopping religion from encroaching on government and law, sometimes it goes a little too extremist. By which I mean, when outright propaganda and lies are used, it takes away from what the movement should be about. Plus you have the victims who go into a religious debate armed with this piece of info, which turns out to be completely untrue.

I don't like self-righteous people in general, however, it is pretty difficult to assign that label to any one group of people, when you think about it. The majority of us are self-righteous to some degree. It's a very dominant human trait, which has its uses. It is also a trait that I think will die out in time, as we evolve socially and create more advanced supporting technologies. As for now, don't let it frustrate you too much, there are more productive things you could ponder on.

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Did someone murder Selliedjoup when he was halfway through replying to my comment?