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Thoughts on Atheism (and a plea to the religious)
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RE: Thoughts on Atheism (and a plea to the religious)
Quote:So what? Ad hominem AND Strawman fallacy; that does not invalidate the atheist position.

Well, consider the following argument:

1) Being a reasonable person entails exhibiting a certain, proper amount of humility about what we can know.
2) Atheism necessarily entails exhibiting an improper amount of humility about what we can know.
3) Therefore, atheism entails not being a reasonable person.

This argument is valid.

It seems to me that under this kind of an argument, asserting that atheism necessarily entails a lack of humility could be both not ad hominem and not a strawman/red herring.

Quote:The universe is a series of systems. It works because it does, because if it didn’t work there’d be nothing. Why it is the way it is is irrelevant as well, because if the rules of the universe weren’t what they were then they’d be different, but there would still be rules because rules are why things work. To everything there is a rule of how and why it is, otherwise there would be utter chaos. That’s how it goes. I see evolution as proof of this. It makes sense that beings who adapt would outlast those that don’t. It works with the rules. To say that someone just made everything the way it is and that it works by default is, amongst things, a cop-out. It ignores the cyclical nature of the world, that things change over time. If all was the way God wanted it to be, then nothing would ever change.

These all seem like axiomatic articles of faith, to me. What a priori reason is there to believe that they are true?

(July 7, 2012 at 2:17 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Pretty funny from some lunatic who thinks he has an invisible sky-daddy looking out for him.

"Go Fuck Yourself" would be perfectly appropriate at that point in time.

Right, because disagreeing with you about the existence of God requires lunacy.

...and you wonder why people sometimes accuse atheists of lacking proper epistemic humility?
“The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.”
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RE: Thoughts on Atheism (and a plea to the religious) - by CliveStaples - July 8, 2012 at 3:46 am

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