RE: Thoughts on Atheism (and a plea to the religious)
July 8, 2012 at 8:29 am
(This post was last modified: July 8, 2012 at 8:30 am by CliveStaples.)
(July 8, 2012 at 7:53 am)FallentoReason Wrote: And why should a mega young universe be the default view?
...I didn't say it should be...
Quote:Great, then it's settled; your argument is a baseless assertion therefore there's no need for me to have to prove it wrong if you can't even show me why it's plausible.
My argument is this:
1) There is no evidence that "The universe did not come into existence three seconds ago with the appearance of age" which does not presuppose that it is true.
2) Therefore, under evidentialism we should decline to believe that "The universe did not come into existence three seconds ago with the appearance of age."
Now, as an atheist, you should understand the difference between declining to believe p and believing ~p.
Quote:I don't understand how you can rationally hold that view if there's nothing to show for it?
I don't hold the view that the universe can't be more than a minute old. I never claimed that the universe can't be more than a minute old.
...do you guys really not understand the difference between "I don't think there's evidence for p" and "p is false"?
You're atheists, for fuck's sake. This is precisely the difference between "I don't think there's evidence for God" and "I believe God doesn't exist."
(July 8, 2012 at 8:22 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Because he's not a fucking prick, like you obviously are.
You can stop right there and take that philosobabble straight back to your church and your silly friends.
That's the ad hominem fallacy. If you can't justify your beliefs, fine. Don't get pissy just because I point out that they're unjustified.
“The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.”
