RE: I am atheist,but I do not like science.
July 8, 2012 at 1:57 pm
(This post was last modified: July 8, 2012 at 2:01 pm by CliveStaples.)
(July 8, 2012 at 7:14 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Because the concept works. Tell me how fast you're driving your car and I can tell you when it's expected that you will cross an imaginary line 100 metres in front of you. I'm assuming time can be measured and according to what I see in reality with this example I'll be able to show that the measurement was correct. Therefore it follows that time is real according to reality.
But how do you know that I'm telling you how fast I'm driving my car? How do you know that there are such things as cars? How do you know that physics works the way it does?
You're still making assumptions, and still refusing to question them.
Quote:You consider yourself a Christian. I'm assuming (and desperately hoping) that amongst all this wreckage about not being able to know anything for certain you've somehow come out with the conclusion that Jesus Christ is Lord. Any explanations for this convenient conclusion?
I didn't say that we couldn't know anything for certain. You just made that part up.
I'm asking you how you know things. I'm asking how you justify your beliefs. Now you're just refusing to answer the question.
(July 8, 2012 at 12:58 pm)whateverist Wrote: As a strict matter of logic, lots of patently absurd possibilities exist. You would have us realize this in order to suggest we question the possibility of all evidence based reasoning? Or am I missing your point?
No, I'm asking you to be consistent. If you believe that every belief must be justified with evidence, then what is your evidence for the belief "every belief must be justified with evidence"?
If you don't have evidence, then you're inconsistent. If you have evidence, I'd love to hear it.
Quote:The little closed loops of logic only caricaturize reality by exposing the implication of language. Formal logic is such a fragile and limited tool. Is there any reason to think that examining the implication of speech will lead to a better understanding of what that speech is about, the world for example?
"Formal logic is a fragile and limited tool."
Wow. I actually got an atheist to criticize the use of logic!
I'm not talking about linguistics. I'm talking about the structure of your beliefs. It's epistemology, not linguistics.
(July 8, 2012 at 9:46 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Tick tock, tick tock....
I take it you've realised your belief in God is even less rational than believing that 5 minutes can actually pass. Congratulations.
I'm sorry, is this the part where you provide evidence for your beliefs?
...oh, guess we're still waiting on that.
“The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.”
