RE: Well this ought to piss off the Vatican
July 12, 2012 at 1:17 am
(This post was last modified: July 12, 2012 at 1:20 am by Oldandeasilyconfused.)
[/quote]The "power" of the church is an illusion.
Well no,it isn't actually. The Vatican is a de fcato state,with accredited embassies all over the world. The only non voting member of the UN, the Vatican nevertheless has representatives on dozens of UN councils and committees,where it exercises a great deal of influence.
Agreed,the Vatican does not meet ONE of criteria under international law used to define a state. The current situation began with the shameful Lateran Treaty of 1929, with Mussolini. The Church managed to extend the idea outside of Italy by chicanery and pure chutzpah.
The Catholic Church has protected itself as an institution above all else since the first Nicene Council (325 CE)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateran_Treaty
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Well no,it isn't actually. The Vatican is a de fcato state,with accredited embassies all over the world. The only non voting member of the UN, the Vatican nevertheless has representatives on dozens of UN councils and committees,where it exercises a great deal of influence.
Quote:The world needs to abolish the fiction that it is a "state"
Agreed,the Vatican does not meet ONE of criteria under international law used to define a state. The current situation began with the shameful Lateran Treaty of 1929, with Mussolini. The Church managed to extend the idea outside of Italy by chicanery and pure chutzpah.
The Catholic Church has protected itself as an institution above all else since the first Nicene Council (325 CE)
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Quote:The Lateran Treaty was one of the Lateran Pacts of 1929 or Lateran Accords, agreements made in 1929 between the Kingdom of Italy and the Holy See, signed on February 11, 1929 and ratified by the Italian parliament on June 7, 1929, ending the "Roman Question". Italy was then under a Fascist government; the succeeding democratic governments have all upheld the treaty. The Lateran Pacts were in 1947 incorporated into the democratic Constitution of Italy.[1]
The pacts consisted of two documents, with four annexes:[2]
A political treaty recognising the full sovereignty of the Holy See in the State of Vatican City, which was thereby established, a document accompanied by the annexes:
A plan of the territory of the Vatican City State
A list and plans of the buildings with extraterritorial privilege and exemption from expropriation and taxes
A list and plans of the buildings with exemption from expropriation and taxes
A financial convention agreed on as a definitive settlement of the claims of the Holy See following the loss of its territories and property
A concordat regulating relations between the Catholic Church and the Italian state
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateran_Treaty
