(July 17, 2012 at 6:39 pm)padraic Wrote:Quote:I don't think materialism is necessary for atheism,
You're right,it isn't. Atheism is only a disbelief in gods,nothing else is inferred or may be implied. My atheism is an effect of my skepticism,as is my materialist 'view.' (ie seems to be the case due to a lack of credible evidence to the contrary)
Nope, he still won't get it.
Again I refer to the equally long thread on ravingatheists.com forum from a year ago filled with just as many heads banging against the Selliejoup wall.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.