(July 17, 2012 at 7:44 pm)padraic Wrote:Quote:My first question, is do you feel Muslims are dishonest to themselves about their beliefs?
As a general principle? I have no reason to doubt their honesty.
Quote:why do you think some of them think Atheists are dishonest to themselves about their beliefs?
I have no idea and could not care less what they think. I only care about what they do. (sometimes)
In our society,we (ideally) are judged by our behaviour, not by our thoughts,beliefs or feelings. In my daily life I am more concerned with the 'what' than the 'why' of things.
No in our society, AND in evolution we are lured by the quick fix, and we generally flock to that which is close to us and we are familiar with. Don't mistake your heightened awareness of what should be in judging people on behavior with the reality that labels throughout our species history have always become the short cut way to judge.
But I disagree that the "what" is the most important. Anyone can say what they believe. "Why" is the evidence as to "what" and where our modern inventions, technology, and medicine have been the only thing to determine universally "what" reality is.
"What" can be anything including imagination, and even scientist have to have it. "Why" must always be important, it is the only thing that backs up "what". Without the "why" we as humans merely wallow in our own tribal masturbation.