(July 26, 2012 at 4:41 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Why would you want to go away, I personally don't want you to leave. Unintentional comedy comes at a high premium in my life, so I appreciate your contributions.
You'd have a stronger case if matter required belief, it doesn't. You'd have a stronger case if we ever found or had any inklings of the existence of this mysterious supernatural world that you implicitly offer as an alternative, we haven't.
The material world is all that we know, and as it stands, all that we seem to be able to know in the first place. You could always change this, rather than bicker over whether or not people swallow whatever you'd like to sell. No one has ever done that, most opt to bicker instead. You might want to consider the differences between those things which you feel are "beliefs" if you want to understand why your continued insistence in this area will be less than fruitful. I think the term "belief" has been used far too loosely far to often in these posts amigo.
If you think you've found a gotcha moment, you're going to be disappointed. I do not believe in supernatural shit. This lands me in the materialist camp(or on the borders of it in any case) -almost by default- not through any sort of belief. It is where I find myself, case in point, due to a complete and utter inability to "believe" things in the first place.
That you state you don't need to justify your view/belief/dogma is amusing for me too, that said if the proportion of people who thought like you lot increaed I'd be worried.
I agree the material world is all we know, however that you apply that as material is all we know, that is all which can exist is odd presumption to make. You just presume your assumption to be true. Why you "believe" we can prove all there is is beyond me.
If this is not true, tell me why.
