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Assault On Free Speech
RE: Assault On Free Speech
(August 2, 2012 at 3:03 pm)A Theist Wrote:
(August 2, 2012 at 1:45 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: I did not ask if any laws were broken. I did not ask what the customers can do in response. I did not ask what the obligations of public office holders are.
None of these have anything to do with the business ethics of Chick-fil-A in its conduct.

"Is it not a severe violation of the obligation between supplier and consumer to provide an unbiased service to a market in demand of it?"
"Does this conduct not qualify as severely unethical?"

Your answer to both questions is no. This implies you do not believe their actions to have been biased, a violation of trust or unethical.
Fair enough, by that logic I assume you wouldn't mind a privately owned business very vocally promoting homosexuality moving into your neighbourhood then?
I lived in a Urban inner city neighborhood for the most of my lifetime. There were a lot of gay bookstores and gay businesses which pandered to the gay lifestyle that moved in to our area over the course of some years. They weren't breaking any city ordinances as far as I could see and there wasn't an effort by our mayor and other elected office holders to ban gay businesses from our city like Chicago and Boston tried to do Chick-fil-A.
Do you think the mayors of Boston and Chicago severely violated the trust of their office when they tried to deny a businessowner his rights because of political and religious differences? Doesn't their conduct also qualify as severely unethical?

Did any of them ever release statements that amounted to "We promote the gay lifestyle. We believe those who do not follow this lifestyle to be immoral."
That would be unethical but I think you'd struggle to find even one statement such as that. Until you do I don't think you can draw any serious comparison.

Perhaps, I think if they seriously consider this business to be harmful to the welfare and happiness of their cities then they would be remiss not to attempt to block it. The reason they attempted to block the business is because Chick-fil-a attempted to combine religion, politics, intolerance and business together to gain further influence over a population that neither wanted nor asked for it.
Every other successful business has understood they must remain religiously and politically neutral. Chick-fil-a has broken this commitment.
I am not entirely sure as to the legality of such a move, I don't think you are either.

Ultimately I think all of this is a moot point. Its the market who will decide and I think the majority of the market will not tolerate the brazen audacity it takes to attempt to jam views down a customers throat. I think they will look at McDonalds, Burger King, Pizza Hut and the other fast food joints who have clearly understood it is not their place to enforce any kind of agenda upon the public. Chick-fil-a have cost themselves a large source of revenue through this misguided move and I think it will present them with great difficulties when attempting to keep up with competitors.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - July 30, 2012 at 10:14 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2012 at 10:19 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Minimalist - July 30, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Autumnlicious - July 30, 2012 at 2:17 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Tiberius - July 30, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Erinome - July 30, 2012 at 2:19 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by ElijahDrew - July 30, 2012 at 10:54 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 30, 2012 at 2:22 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Minimalist - July 30, 2012 at 2:45 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Faith No More - July 30, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - July 30, 2012 at 3:17 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 30, 2012 at 3:36 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Erinome - July 30, 2012 at 3:55 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 30, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Faith No More - July 30, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Darth - July 31, 2012 at 6:21 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Thor - July 30, 2012 at 4:20 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Erinome - July 30, 2012 at 4:22 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Thor - July 30, 2012 at 4:31 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Erinome - July 30, 2012 at 4:33 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Thor - July 30, 2012 at 5:53 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by 5thHorseman - July 30, 2012 at 4:38 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Autumnlicious - July 30, 2012 at 4:46 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 30, 2012 at 6:01 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Tempus - July 30, 2012 at 6:19 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 30, 2012 at 8:53 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 12:12 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 31, 2012 at 12:50 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by 5thHorseman - July 30, 2012 at 6:49 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by 5thHorseman - July 30, 2012 at 5:08 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Minimalist - July 30, 2012 at 5:59 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 30, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 30, 2012 at 10:01 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Minimalist - July 30, 2012 at 10:26 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 30, 2012 at 10:14 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 30, 2012 at 11:08 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 30, 2012 at 10:48 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Minimalist - July 31, 2012 at 1:18 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2012 at 10:49 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 30, 2012 at 11:34 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 30, 2012 at 11:52 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 30, 2012 at 11:56 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by CliveStaples - July 31, 2012 at 3:53 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 31, 2012 at 12:03 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 1:08 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 31, 2012 at 3:27 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 11:47 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - July 31, 2012 at 6:07 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - July 31, 2012 at 9:07 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Ryantology - July 31, 2012 at 3:57 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - July 31, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by padraic - July 31, 2012 at 3:41 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Autumnlicious - July 31, 2012 at 11:40 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by CliveStaples - July 31, 2012 at 4:42 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 11:44 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Autumnlicious - July 31, 2012 at 11:45 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by downbeatplumb - July 31, 2012 at 11:52 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Minimalist - July 31, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Faith No More - July 31, 2012 at 3:33 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by CliveStaples - July 31, 2012 at 4:52 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 31, 2012 at 6:41 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by CliveStaples - July 31, 2012 at 6:52 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - July 31, 2012 at 6:57 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 31, 2012 at 7:24 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 4:56 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by CliveStaples - July 31, 2012 at 5:16 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 6:01 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by CliveStaples - July 31, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by CliveStaples - July 31, 2012 at 6:38 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Faith No More - July 31, 2012 at 4:57 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - July 31, 2012 at 5:52 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - July 31, 2012 at 5:19 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Autumnlicious - July 31, 2012 at 6:18 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by LastPoet - July 31, 2012 at 6:28 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Reforged - July 31, 2012 at 7:34 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Ryantology - July 31, 2012 at 7:42 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Reforged - July 31, 2012 at 7:50 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by padraic - July 31, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Reforged - July 31, 2012 at 7:58 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 7:56 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by CliveStaples - July 31, 2012 at 8:05 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - July 31, 2012 at 7:59 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 8:17 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by CliveStaples - July 31, 2012 at 8:30 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 11:03 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by padraic - July 31, 2012 at 11:18 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Minimalist - July 31, 2012 at 11:18 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by KnockEmOuttt - July 31, 2012 at 11:42 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by downbeatplumb - August 1, 2012 at 6:15 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 1, 2012 at 6:22 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by downbeatplumb - August 1, 2012 at 6:25 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 1, 2012 at 6:32 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by downbeatplumb - August 1, 2012 at 6:40 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2012 at 8:54 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by KichigaiNeko - August 1, 2012 at 9:30 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2012 at 9:22 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Darth - August 1, 2012 at 9:35 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2012 at 9:55 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2012 at 10:02 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 1, 2012 at 10:07 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by KichigaiNeko - August 1, 2012 at 10:04 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2012 at 10:08 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 1, 2012 at 10:10 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 1, 2012 at 3:35 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - August 1, 2012 at 6:40 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 1, 2012 at 7:28 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Reforged - August 1, 2012 at 7:57 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Ryantology - August 1, 2012 at 8:43 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 1, 2012 at 11:33 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Reforged - August 2, 2012 at 1:45 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 2, 2012 at 3:03 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 2, 2012 at 3:23 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by C.W. Sims - August 2, 2012 at 3:37 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 2, 2012 at 4:49 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - August 2, 2012 at 6:36 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 2, 2012 at 7:19 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Cato - August 2, 2012 at 7:43 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Tiberius - August 3, 2012 at 9:50 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Reforged - August 2, 2012 at 6:57 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 2, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 2, 2012 at 7:49 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 2, 2012 at 7:57 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 2, 2012 at 8:04 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Reforged - August 3, 2012 at 6:48 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 4, 2012 at 9:47 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Reforged - August 6, 2012 at 4:45 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 6, 2012 at 5:57 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Reforged - August 6, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - August 1, 2012 at 7:55 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 1, 2012 at 10:53 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Cato - August 1, 2012 at 11:47 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by padraic - August 1, 2012 at 9:24 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Minimalist - August 1, 2012 at 9:37 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - August 1, 2012 at 11:33 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 2, 2012 at 8:36 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by padraic - August 2, 2012 at 12:15 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 2, 2012 at 11:46 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by padraic - August 2, 2012 at 7:32 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2012 at 8:43 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2012 at 12:00 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - August 2, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by jackman - August 2, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 2, 2012 at 1:05 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - August 2, 2012 at 1:28 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jackalope - August 2, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Cato - August 2, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2012 at 1:06 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 2, 2012 at 1:36 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2012 at 1:53 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - August 2, 2012 at 7:32 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by padraic - August 2, 2012 at 9:33 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 3, 2012 at 9:10 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Zen Badger - August 3, 2012 at 9:15 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 3, 2012 at 9:17 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 3, 2012 at 9:31 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 3, 2012 at 9:59 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - August 2, 2012 at 11:52 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - August 3, 2012 at 12:02 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - August 3, 2012 at 12:42 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by C.W. Sims - August 3, 2012 at 1:17 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - August 3, 2012 at 1:20 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by padraic - August 3, 2012 at 2:39 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Zen Badger - August 3, 2012 at 6:12 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by KichigaiNeko - August 3, 2012 at 6:16 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2012 at 1:19 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 3, 2012 at 6:04 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by KichigaiNeko - August 3, 2012 at 9:12 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by KichigaiNeko - August 3, 2012 at 9:33 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Tiberius - August 3, 2012 at 11:16 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - August 3, 2012 at 5:55 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by jackman - August 3, 2012 at 6:15 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2012 at 11:20 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - August 3, 2012 at 6:37 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Zen Badger - August 3, 2012 at 10:44 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by znk666 - August 4, 2012 at 4:26 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2012 at 9:58 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 4, 2012 at 10:52 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2012 at 11:06 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by downbeatplumb - August 4, 2012 at 12:52 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by KichigaiNeko - August 5, 2012 at 8:19 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - August 5, 2012 at 2:31 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 6, 2012 at 9:18 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Cato - August 6, 2012 at 6:04 pm

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