RE: This Should Piss Off Religious Twits
August 3, 2012 at 2:03 am
(This post was last modified: August 3, 2012 at 2:03 am by CliveStaples.)
(August 3, 2012 at 12:32 am)Minimalist Wrote: As usual Clyde you manage to miss the point. Try reading Davies' comment slowly...maybe you'll understand it then...
Well, it's "Clive", but since it's a fake internet name anyway, I'm not going to sweat it.
But I've read Davies' comment, and I believe that I understand it. I'll attempt to paraphrase it:
"Some claim that moral values are derived from religion, but I'm irreligious and yet have moral values (don't steal, liberty is good, etc.). These moral values do not come from any religion."
I still don't see a proof that these values cannot be shown to derive from religion.
Quote:Quote:None-of-these-values-can-be-shown-to-derive-from-religion,-and- certainly-not-from-the-Bible
Theists love to prance around making all sorts of absurd claims about the alleged morality of their murderous god. Davies' leaves the burden of proof solidly on you. See what you can do to rehabilitate your angry desert deity.
...erm, Davies is the one who has made a claim. Specifically, he said that "none of these can be shown to derive from religion, and certainly not from the Bible." The burden of proof is on the person who makes the claim; I'd be very interested to see such a proof. Like I said, I really enjoy proofs that something can't be proven.
“The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.”