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[quote]You do know that less than an estimated 3% of the population durning the time of Christ could read or write.[/quote]
Probably pretty close to accurate and not worth quibbling about. (There are degrees of literacy....Roman legionaires were taught to read and write but few could have handled the dialogues of Plato...but they could read the duty roster for cleaning the legionary latrine.)
[quote]The problem is that we are speaking of the people who COULD read and write and did so fairly well.[/quote]Yes out of the 3% of the population those who could read and write could usally do so in several languages, but for the every day shmow. He was an illiterate. (Follow the link i provided in my fist post)
[quote]Yet no Greco-Roman or Jewish author bothers to mention even an outlandish story involving your boy. Not one.[/quote]Your making the point to say out of 6 possiable/known writters, none of which we have complete works from are know to have written of Christ? So what?
[quote]At this point xtians usually try the old "Judaea was an outpost of the empire" routine which was certainly no longer true after Herod the Great built the port of Caesarea. No. Judaea was part of the empire and more importantly it was sitting on major commercial routes. Ideas...not just merchandise...flow along those routes. Still, NOT ONE REFERENCE TO A DEAD JEW COMING BACK TO LIFE. [/quote]AGAIN Because of that 3% the majority belonged to the Preisthood of the Saducees, and they wanted NO Part of Christ. (they are the one's who had Him crusified so why would they then record his miricals?) Then you yourself point out that the roman officals who could read or write could do so only on a utilitarian scale. Outside of this there was only a handful of recognized and documented historean for the Whole of the roman Empire! So tell me again who it was up to to record such events?
[quote]In the second century, Lucian writes of xtians in The Passing of Peregrinus, c 165 and Celsus writes, On the True Doctrine c 170. So, we see that after xtians did begin to spread that Greco-Roman writers did mention them and comment on what they considered their barbaric doctrines.
But not in the first century. Not even once.[/quote]
Because in the first there were little if any writters who would have qualified to followed Jesus and record the events of his life. Not to mention Rome destroyed Jurselem in 70AD wiping out all written records and nearly all of the people. So whatever was written and was kept in or around Jurselem durning that time would have been destroyed. what else could anyone have done but to start over at that point in history?
[quote]You do know that less than an estimated 3% of the population durning the time of Christ could read or write.[/quote]
Probably pretty close to accurate and not worth quibbling about. (There are degrees of literacy....Roman legionaires were taught to read and write but few could have handled the dialogues of Plato...but they could read the duty roster for cleaning the legionary latrine.)
[quote]The problem is that we are speaking of the people who COULD read and write and did so fairly well.[/quote]Yes out of the 3% of the population those who could read and write could usally do so in several languages, but for the every day shmow. He was an illiterate. (Follow the link i provided in my fist post)
[quote]Yet no Greco-Roman or Jewish author bothers to mention even an outlandish story involving your boy. Not one.[/quote]Your making the point to say out of 6 possiable/known writters, none of which we have complete works from are know to have written of Christ? So what?
[quote]At this point xtians usually try the old "Judaea was an outpost of the empire" routine which was certainly no longer true after Herod the Great built the port of Caesarea. No. Judaea was part of the empire and more importantly it was sitting on major commercial routes. Ideas...not just merchandise...flow along those routes. Still, NOT ONE REFERENCE TO A DEAD JEW COMING BACK TO LIFE. [/quote]AGAIN Because of that 3% the majority belonged to the Preisthood of the Saducees, and they wanted NO Part of Christ. (they are the one's who had Him crusified so why would they then record his miricals?) Then you yourself point out that the roman officals who could read or write could do so only on a utilitarian scale. Outside of this there was only a handful of recognized and documented historean for the Whole of the roman Empire! So tell me again who it was up to to record such events?
[quote]In the second century, Lucian writes of xtians in The Passing of Peregrinus, c 165 and Celsus writes, On the True Doctrine c 170. So, we see that after xtians did begin to spread that Greco-Roman writers did mention them and comment on what they considered their barbaric doctrines.
But not in the first century. Not even once.[/quote]
Because in the first there were little if any writters who would have qualified to followed Jesus and record the events of his life. Not to mention Rome destroyed Jurselem in 70AD wiping out all written records and nearly all of the people. So whatever was written and was kept in or around Jurselem durning that time would have been destroyed. what else could anyone have done but to start over at that point in history?
