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Reasons to despise " god " ( in the almost zero possibility of he/she/its existence )
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RE: Reasons to despise " god " ( in the almost zero possibility of he/she/its existen
(November 1, 2008 at 8:32 pm)bozo Wrote:
(October 31, 2008 at 11:00 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote:
(October 31, 2008 at 5:30 pm)bozo Wrote:
(October 31, 2008 at 9:24 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote:
(October 31, 2008 at 9:12 am)leo-rcc Wrote: I'd agree with you if every religion and denomination would work that way, but they don't all do that.

If anything the notion of punishment after death is much stronger with theists then atheists. After all, when we die, we assume it is over (apart from the atheists believing in re-incarnation of course). No hell, no punishment.
Yeah, and for example, Christians interpret the bible differently, so there are Christians who don't believe bozos example of course. There are Christians who although believing in God they still think moral goodness as a whole is the bible's message. And a more important part of the bible than the whole "believe" thing, although they would probably take that very seriously too of course.

With respect guys, I think you miss my point, which is that a serial killer ( pretty heavy? ) will be pardoned and welcomed by " god " despite the heinous crimes committed, whereas someone who doesn't accept " god " will be damned despite being innocent of any heavy stuff. It pisses me right off when I read reports of all those convicted of crimes who promptly " find god " as soon as they go inside.
The conclusion to be drawn is that " god " welcomes anyone prepared to worship him/her/it above anything else.
But in reality neither of them go to hell or heaven and not all Christians believe that the serial killer would go to heaven and the atheist to hell. If the atheist is/was a good person then some Christians would think that the atheist may even go to heaven and I'm sure that some Christians would certainly at least also send the serial-killer to hell too. Just having faith in God, even if its 100% faith, is not enough for all Christians certainly, there are many Christians that think even though his faith is at the maximum, the serial-killer would still need to be a much better person and to never have done such horrible things in order to get into heaven. Surely?
So thats what I mean.
So what's " god's " opinion then?
He almost certainly is incapable of having one. Since he almost certainly doesn't exist. IF he does exist, I have no idea what his opinion is because what God is he? What rules does he have? He could be anything conceivable or perhaps even inconceivable whatsoever if he exists. And therefore the same would go for his opinion, it could be anything.
Of course, if you are talking about the Christian God the same things still apply, just to a slightly less extent. The bible can be interpreted in so many ways and his opinion could perhaps still be virtually anything IF he does exist.
Especially considering how unlikely it is that the Christian God or any God exists, he perhaps would have to go against logic in order to exist. So the bible could be full of lies even if the Christian Yahweh does exist.
So I still have no idea what God's opinion is even if he does exist AND he is Christian. How should I know?
I guess if we assume that IF God exists, not only does he exist and is the Christian God but also everything in the bible is 100% literally true. Well I still don't know what his opinion is but I understand that it is almost certainly something very sick twisted and evil considering what Yahweh is like.
"However!" if only the New Testament is to be followed, then since Jesus says he doesn't wish to go against the Old Testament but he thinks it is all great and wants to fulfill it all, then God's opinion is probably still sick twisted and evil.
But once again, even literal interpretations can be disputed, how do we actually know what God means literally even IF the words of the bible was indeed 100% true?
But thats what I think anyway.
Like I said: How should I know?
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RE: Reasons to despise " god " ( in the almost zero possibility of he/she/its existen - by Edwardo Piet - November 1, 2008 at 8:55 pm

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