Is rape natural?

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So does the urge come naturally to you? As naturally as picking your nose?

It obviously comes naturally to some people, hence why there are people out there who rape. Duh.

I'm pretty sure the urge to pick my nose comes up far more often than the urge to commit a rape, if I pick my nose only once in my life.

Missing the point. Again I'll ask for you to define natural, because nothing you are saying is making it any less so.

And I'm pretty sure that the same could be said of the vast majority of human beings.

So what, if only one monkey out of a million decides to shit on the floor, it doesn't make that monkey's act of shitting on the floor any less natural.

The reasons given for why rape occurs in the wild, are to prevent genetic extinction, as I stated before. Bottom of the barrel, no hope of getting laid members of the pack. Yet with human beings it's something that seems to come the fuck from nowhere. It's been seen to happen from and across all walks of life.

How does this make it any less natural?

The human mind is more advanced. It makes decisions based on information. It doesn't run off of instinct AS much. I'm not saying it is devoid of instinct, far from it, we still operate from it in many ways, but it has higher thought processes beyond just survival, yes? So, if nature is the argument for why rape occurs, then how come it is occurring in ways where a biological imperative such as the one posited by scientists is not present??

You obviously have a misunderstanding of the thought process with which any and all animals decide to commit rape. It's not a reasoned decision, it's an instinctual one. I would think this be rather obvious.

Knowing that, how does your point have any relevance?

Married men committing rape? Clearly they have a mating source allocated.

I'm still failing to see why this makes it any less natural.

Men who are attractive, hell, men whose jobs are to fuck attractive women on camera commit rape. Where does that come from?? What "natural" biological impulse says "well you're mating through normal means, BUT FUCK IT, over-ride that shit, and FORCE it on others!" What sense does THAT make, exactly? There's no "natural" explanation for it. A social one, sure, but a natural one? No.

It doesn't make sense, who says it has to make sense for it to be natural?

"No natural explanation"

Seems to me you either have a really big misconception of what natural is, or you have drawn conclusions from your own ignorance. I'm sure biologists and psychologists would disagree with you.

You sound like a creationist who is ignorant of the evidence for evolution, saying that there is no evidence of evolution.


At the risk of being patronising, I already know you get caught up very emotionally in arguments CoH, I find you're doing it again.

Take away the emotional response that rape obviously has, and look at it objectively.