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Is rape natural?
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RE: Is rape natural?
(August 11, 2012 at 2:04 pm)LastPoet Wrote: CoH: rape happens between humans, but humans are natural beings, hence rape is natural. That does not make it moral or ok, because of just being natural of course.

Also, Its clear you never had much rape threads... Rape is very rarely about sex or sexuality, but about exerting power and control over someone else. If you talked about this before you would know.

*pinches bridge of his nose*

I am ALL TOO AWARE of what rape is about. I endured it QUITE A BIT as a child, do not speak to me as if I am somehow unaware of what it's about. It IS about sexuality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociobiolog...Human_rape

Quote:Thornhill and Palme write that "In short, a man can have many children, with little inconvenience to himself; a woman can have only a few, and with great effort." Females therefore tend to be more choosy with partners. Rape is seen as one potential strategy for males for achieving reproductive success. They point to several other factors indicating that rape may be a reproductive strategy. It is during the potentially childbearing years that women most often are rape victims. Rapists usually do not use more force than necessary to subdue their victims which is argued to be the case since physically injuring the victims would reduce the chance of reproduction. Furthermore, "In many cultures rape is treated as a crime against the victim's husband."

To which was replied:

Quote:Anthropologist Edward H. Hagen states in his Evolutionary Psychology FAQ from 2002 that he believes there is no clear evidence for the hypothesis that rape is adaptive. He believes the adaptivity of rape is possible, but claims there is not enough evidence to be certain one way or the other. However, he encourages such evidence to be obtained: "Whether human males possess psychological adaptations for rape will only be answered by careful studies seeking evidence for such cognitive specializations. To not seek such evidence is like failing to search a suspect for a concealed weapon." He also describes some conditions in the ancestral environment during which the reproductive gains from rape may have outweighed the costs:

"High status males may be have been able to coerce matings with little fear of reprisal."
"Low status women (e.g., orphans) may have been particularly vulnerable to being raped because males need not have feared reprisals from the woman's family."
"During war, raping enemy women may have had few negative repercussions."
"Men who were low status, who were likely to remain low status, and who had few opportunities to invest in kin may have realized reproductive benefits that outweighed the considerable costs (e.g., reprisal by the woman's family)."

Something to consider, that. Especially for me, because that might actually debunk my argument that rape is not natural in human beings.
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Is rape natural? - by Creed of Heresy - August 11, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by jonb - August 11, 2012 at 1:16 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Creed of Heresy - August 11, 2012 at 1:34 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by LastPoet - August 11, 2012 at 1:48 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Creed of Heresy - August 11, 2012 at 2:10 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by LastPoet - August 11, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by jonb - August 11, 2012 at 3:12 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by LastPoet - August 11, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Shell B - August 11, 2012 at 1:41 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 11, 2012 at 1:42 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Creed of Heresy - August 11, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 11, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Creed of Heresy - August 11, 2012 at 2:36 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 11, 2012 at 4:40 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Lion IRC - August 11, 2012 at 3:28 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Reforged - August 11, 2012 at 1:47 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Violet - August 11, 2012 at 1:49 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Creed of Heresy - August 11, 2012 at 2:04 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by frankiej - August 11, 2012 at 2:06 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by frankiej - August 11, 2012 at 1:58 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by padraic - August 11, 2012 at 7:46 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by LastPoet - August 11, 2012 at 2:04 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Violet - August 11, 2012 at 2:19 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Creed of Heresy - August 11, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by LastPoet - August 11, 2012 at 2:17 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 11, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by LastPoet - August 11, 2012 at 2:27 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Violet - August 11, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Whateverist - August 11, 2012 at 2:46 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by jonb - August 11, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Jenny A - July 12, 2014 at 11:13 am
RE: Is rape natural? - by LastPoet - August 11, 2012 at 3:02 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Faith No More - August 11, 2012 at 3:18 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Whateverist - August 12, 2012 at 8:37 am
RE: Is rape natural? - by Violet - August 12, 2012 at 10:51 am
RE: Is rape natural? - by Shell B - August 11, 2012 at 3:32 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Lion IRC - August 11, 2012 at 3:38 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by LastPoet - August 11, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Gambit - August 11, 2012 at 4:25 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Faith No More - August 11, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by freedomfighter - August 11, 2012 at 5:40 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by jackman - August 11, 2012 at 6:16 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by freedomfighter - August 11, 2012 at 6:26 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Annik - August 11, 2012 at 5:50 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by freedomfighter - August 11, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by jackman - August 11, 2012 at 6:35 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by freedomfighter - August 11, 2012 at 6:46 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by LastPoet - August 11, 2012 at 6:43 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 11, 2012 at 7:07 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by freedomfighter - August 11, 2012 at 7:12 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 11, 2012 at 7:18 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by freedomfighter - August 11, 2012 at 7:52 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 11, 2012 at 8:04 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by freedomfighter - August 11, 2012 at 8:06 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Gambit - August 11, 2012 at 7:25 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 11, 2012 at 7:28 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Gambit - August 11, 2012 at 7:35 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Shell B - August 11, 2012 at 7:48 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 11, 2012 at 7:50 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Shell B - August 11, 2012 at 7:55 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by freedomfighter - August 11, 2012 at 8:02 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by padraic - August 11, 2012 at 8:07 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by freedomfighter - August 11, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Re: Is rape natural? - by NoraBrimstone - August 11, 2012 at 8:44 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Shell B - August 11, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Re: Is rape natural? - by NoraBrimstone - August 11, 2012 at 8:47 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Shell B - August 11, 2012 at 8:48 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Gambit - August 11, 2012 at 8:51 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 11, 2012 at 8:55 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Creed of Heresy - August 12, 2012 at 8:39 am
RE: Is rape natural? - by Gambit - August 11, 2012 at 8:57 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Shell B - August 11, 2012 at 9:17 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 11, 2012 at 9:00 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by freedomfighter - August 11, 2012 at 9:08 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 11, 2012 at 9:09 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by freedomfighter - August 11, 2012 at 9:10 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Gambit - August 11, 2012 at 9:07 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Gambit - August 11, 2012 at 9:24 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Shell B - August 11, 2012 at 9:25 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Gambit - August 11, 2012 at 9:33 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Shell B - August 11, 2012 at 9:41 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 11, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Reforged - August 11, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Shell B - August 11, 2012 at 9:46 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Reforged - August 11, 2012 at 10:13 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Whateverist - August 12, 2012 at 8:44 am
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 11, 2012 at 9:46 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Gambit - August 11, 2012 at 9:50 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Shell B - August 11, 2012 at 9:53 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Gambit - August 11, 2012 at 10:02 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Tempus - August 12, 2012 at 12:21 am
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 12, 2012 at 5:06 am
RE: Is rape natural? - by Reforged - August 12, 2012 at 11:27 am
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 12, 2012 at 12:00 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Reforged - August 12, 2012 at 12:02 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Rayaan - August 12, 2012 at 5:36 am
RE: Is rape natural? - by Tiberius - August 12, 2012 at 9:09 am
RE: Is rape natural? - by Creed of Heresy - August 12, 2012 at 9:28 am
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 12, 2012 at 12:03 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Reforged - August 12, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Whateverist - August 12, 2012 at 2:06 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 12, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by freedomfighter - August 12, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Reforged - August 12, 2012 at 2:55 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Epimethean - August 12, 2012 at 3:25 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 12, 2012 at 3:29 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Whateverist - August 13, 2012 at 12:20 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Creed of Heresy - August 16, 2012 at 9:34 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Epimethean - August 12, 2012 at 3:30 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 12, 2012 at 3:31 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Gambit - August 12, 2012 at 3:35 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Napoléon - August 12, 2012 at 3:40 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Reforged - August 12, 2012 at 5:37 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Gambit - August 12, 2012 at 6:13 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Reforged - August 12, 2012 at 6:15 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by LastPoet - August 12, 2012 at 4:40 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Rayaan - August 12, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Gambit - August 12, 2012 at 6:18 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Reforged - August 12, 2012 at 6:23 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Gambit - August 12, 2012 at 6:26 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by freedomfighter - August 12, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Gambit - August 12, 2012 at 6:35 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by freedomfighter - August 12, 2012 at 6:47 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Gambit - August 12, 2012 at 6:56 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by freedomfighter - August 12, 2012 at 7:12 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Gambit - August 12, 2012 at 7:15 pm
RE: Is rape natural? - by Reforged - August 12, 2012 at 7:14 pm
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