RE: So, Shithead...Why Did YOU Pick Him?
August 13, 2012 at 9:38 am
(This post was last modified: August 13, 2012 at 9:45 am by DeistPaladin.)
(August 12, 2012 at 9:37 pm)CliveStaples Wrote: Is there a good argument that Barack Obama is close to the mainstream?
There is a curious divide in perceptions in America on Obama.
To the right wing, he's a dangerous radical bomb-throwing Marxist who somehow managed to sneak into the White House.
To people like me on the center left, he's a center-right president who promised "Yes we can!" as a candidate and has governed by "Aw c'mon guys" as a president.
He's done little since getting into office that doesn't involve throwing liberals under the bus and running after conservatives hoping for some sort of bipartisan healing and that everyone will love him as a great uniter of America. Only recently has it finally dawned on him that Republicans have no intention of negotiating in good faith and will hate him no matter how much he bends over backward.
Yet, despite how "compromise", "bipartisanship" and "reaching across the aisle" (code words for conservatives get most everything they want while liberals get a few scraps from the table, if that) are characteristics of nearly every policy of his, conservatives still rail against him as if he was some sort of dangerous, divisive, far-left demagogue.
This is what makes discussion so frustrating. It's like we live in different realities. It's so different from my conservative Reagan-worshiping Republican days. Back then, we spent 10% of our time discussing the facts and 90% discussing what to do about them. Today, we can't even nail down what the facts are in order to have a rational discussion.
(August 13, 2012 at 9:31 am)CliveStaples Wrote: I guess that depends on what you think the 'wacky' right wing is. Is Paul Ryan "wacky right wing"? Is Antonin Scalia "wacky right wing"? Was Milton Friedman "wacky right wing"?
Our posts seem to have crossed.

By wacky right, I mean the Tea Party, which I can only assume that "A Theist" is a member of the way he posts. Since my post was addressed to him and not Paul Ryan or Antonin Scalia, it's an appropriate term.
But since you asked, Paul Ryan isn't insane. He just wants to destroy Medicare. Antonin Scalia isn't insane. He's just a fascist. Milton Friedman isn't insane. He just promotes a policy of economics that has been proven to be disastrous.
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