(August 15, 2012 at 3:37 am)FallentoReason Wrote:(August 15, 2012 at 1:58 am)Lion IRC Wrote: I actually think the burden of proof is on whoever WANTS to persuade. The world is run by the people who turn up
If atheists are happy to sit back and be unpersuasive non-stamp collectors thats their business.
That's a good point there. The world is definitely run by the people who turn up. How about this scenario:
We're all sitting at a table talking about life in general. Unexpectedly, a newcomer turns up and wants to join our conversation; so he does. This newcomer starts telling the rest of the group about weird and wonderful things that the others haven't heard, so they ask him to back up his claims.
Sound familiar? Replace the table with Atheistforums.org. Now then, why should I believe what you tell me is true? You're the newcomer who is here to persuade us, so show us some proof.
Time has nothing to do with truth, lies are as old as the world, truth has always existed.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.