RE: Better reasons to quit Christianity
August 20, 2012 at 10:38 am
(This post was last modified: August 20, 2012 at 10:58 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Because predestination/precognition, by definition, excludes choice (and this again is assuming linear progression, not just linear perception, of time -because we've already tossed out perception when invoking the precog). Your "choice" has already occurred. Your "choice" is going to go one way only. Your "choice" has no possibility of going any other way. If it did...then the precog would not know the future....ergo would not be a precog. That's kind of a requirement for precognitive ability, accuracy. Capeche?
You want me to sit here and argue time as it applies to catholic superstition? Thanks, I'll pass. What about this requires an example, every "choice" is an example, no specifics are required. Precognition and predestination are over-arching concepts as they apply to time and "choice". I'm not interested in letting you waltz past the problems with the very premise of precognitive ability as it applies to choice in order to argue competing superstitious drivel regarding the same. When you ask me "show me how this understanding of gods" -anything- is incorrect let me preempt the question. The point they went off the rails was the moment they invoked a magical being in the first place. I was only half joking when I mentioned that to you so many posts ago. I have to ask you this, in what way would we expect a primitive and superstitious understanding of time and choice to be a factually accurate representation of reality?
What am I supposed to say about this Spock, it's unsubstantiated horseshit, start to finish.....tell me why I shouldn't utterly dismiss it on principle? I mean, I'm already humoring the idea of fortune telling, how much garbage do I have to swallow to have this discussion with you? How much garbage do you have to load the discussion with before you can even begin to argue a point?
(try the search function btw, this conversation has been done before, in a long drawn out specific and superstition crushing way. Long story short : read moar sci-fi)
You want me to sit here and argue time as it applies to catholic superstition? Thanks, I'll pass. What about this requires an example, every "choice" is an example, no specifics are required. Precognition and predestination are over-arching concepts as they apply to time and "choice". I'm not interested in letting you waltz past the problems with the very premise of precognitive ability as it applies to choice in order to argue competing superstitious drivel regarding the same. When you ask me "show me how this understanding of gods" -anything- is incorrect let me preempt the question. The point they went off the rails was the moment they invoked a magical being in the first place. I was only half joking when I mentioned that to you so many posts ago. I have to ask you this, in what way would we expect a primitive and superstitious understanding of time and choice to be a factually accurate representation of reality?
What am I supposed to say about this Spock, it's unsubstantiated horseshit, start to finish.....tell me why I shouldn't utterly dismiss it on principle? I mean, I'm already humoring the idea of fortune telling, how much garbage do I have to swallow to have this discussion with you? How much garbage do you have to load the discussion with before you can even begin to argue a point?
(try the search function btw, this conversation has been done before, in a long drawn out specific and superstition crushing way. Long story short : read moar sci-fi)
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