(August 23, 2012 at 11:32 pm)genkaus Wrote: This "if" comes from societies geared towards rationality.
You're forgetting the second part -rationality and autonomy. The retarded may not be rational but they still can be autonomous. Thus, while they have the right to live, they do not have certain other rights, such as right to enter into a contract.
No, actually, I would not say that. Like I said, right to life, comes from autonomy, right to freedom comes from rationality. The unborn child has neither and therefore qualifies for neither.
Something would qualify to be killed is it is unconscious and dependent.
I like how the last line you've allowed the person in a coma to be executed. good one.
You're still arbitrarily imposing that everything moral is also rational.
Why not just assume the opposite? Rationality or irrationality, who cares. The drug cartels in Mexico or any group of organized crime don't and they get away with it.
"Be rational, it's the right thing to do!" is this your motto? Genkausiadit
Darwin doesn't agree with you.
At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes … will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.
Charles Darwin, "The Descent of Man", 2nd edition, New York, A L. Burt Co., 1874, p. 178
Bottom line is you can live however you want as long as you can get away with it, if we follow your reasoning.
Nearly 185,000 killings went unsolved from 1980 to 2008 in the U.S.
Why should these murderers care about any rationality you want to impose on them? They got away with it. Irrationality is better in their eyes. Who's to say your survival is rational for the survival of someone else? Sorry Genkaus we gotta make room in this world for others. It's rational like you said.
Remember don't start getting emotional. It's irrational LOL!
James Holmes acted consistent with what evolution teaches. He evolved from an animal, and when he murdered those people, He acted like one. You can't say he's wrong since evolution made him that way.
