RE: The ways to know reality?
August 26, 2012 at 6:06 am
(This post was last modified: August 26, 2012 at 6:07 am by Ace Otana.)
(August 25, 2012 at 3:26 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: My theist buddy keeps telling me I'm arrogant for thinking that all there is to knowing truth is experience, science, and reason. I asked him, what other way is there for coming to the truth of a matter? He said "divine revelation." But I explained to him that you have to use experience, science and reason to make sure the person giving the revelation is trustworthy and that what he says is actually true. So it just comes back to experience, science and reason.
What he's saying is instead of using science (which has been tested time and time again and is an effective tool to understanding the known and unknown) but to trust in personal feelings and faith.
He's not making any sense, but of course he wants his religious beliefs to be true, he's not interested in what's real or not.
Thing is, it's not arrogant to use a tried and tested tool and effective method to understand things. It is however arrogant to state that you know what's real or not through personal feelings and faith.
Also what's funny is that they say it's arrogant to state that we're tiny biological specks with no real significance and that we're nothing but a very brief flash compared to the immense age of the universe. And yet they believe that they're the purpose of the universe?! Who's the arrogant one?
When they comment on our views, they're actually describing themselves. Arrogant, ignorant, ect.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.