RE: Better reasons to quit Christianity
August 26, 2012 at 6:54 pm
(This post was last modified: August 26, 2012 at 7:22 pm by spockrates.)
(August 26, 2012 at 6:17 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(August 26, 2012 at 6:01 pm)spockrates Wrote: I stand corrected.
I out-geeked Spock!
"This will be a day long remembered."
Oh no, wrong series; sorry. Just seemed to fit, somehow.
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Live long and choke on your geeky superiority, Stimbo. (Just kidding! I admit I was out geeked and congratulate you.)

(August 26, 2012 at 6:26 pm)Faith No More Wrote:spockrates Wrote:I suppose what I wonder is what you mean by the word you when you say, "What I should have said is that your brain structure may predetermine which choices you will make when faced with different options."
So please let me ask again: Is the you your brain, or something other than your brain?
In this case the "you" is the part of yourself that would hypothetically be responsible for exercising freewill. That's what I mean when I ask does your brain structure control "you."
As for the question of whether we are our brains, that is actually something you have to answer yourself, because you are the one trying to prove that we have free will.
But you have not answered the question. Have you? You see, when I asked you, "What do you mean by the word you?" I was asking, "What is the part of yourself that would hypothetically be responsible for exercising free will?"
You are saying, "That part of myself that would hypothetically be responsible for exercising freewill is that part of myself that is hypothetically responsible for exercising freewill." Rather than answer the question, you've simply repeated it!
Since you said the question is for you to know and me to find out, I'll hazard this guess: I'm thinking that the part of myself that would hypothetically be responsible for exercising freewill is that part of me that uses my brain to control my body. In other words, I am not my brain, though I use my brain to freely choose what my body says and does.
Now I could be wrong and I might be my brain. If so, I suppose my brain needs some convincing that she is me!

"If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains (no matter how improbable) must be the truth."
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