RE: Most accurate prophecies EVAR! xD
November 3, 2008 at 11:01 am
(This post was last modified: November 3, 2008 at 11:02 am by Daystar.)
(November 2, 2008 at 8:31 pm)Meatball Wrote: How many prophecies didn't come to pass?
I am not sure how many prophecies have yet come to pass nor how many uninformed skeptics fail to realize have passed. If you have any specific ones you would like to address we could disscuss those but here are two that are often mistaken for contradictions and failed prophecies.
Quote:"Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. " -- Matthew 16:28
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. " -- Luke 21:32-33
It is interesting that The Interpreter's Bible goes so far to say of this verse: "The prediction was not fulfilled, and later Christians found it necessary to explain that it was metaphorical."
Isn't that something?!
Consider Matthew 17:1-2 - Six days later Jesus took Peter and James and John his brother along and brought them up into a lofty mountain by themselves. And he was transfigured before them, and his face shone as the sun, and his outer garments became brilliant as the light.
That is what Jesus was talking about at Matthew 16:28. That prophecy was fulfilled.
Now Luke 21:32-33 was something else. British scholar G. R. Beasley-Murray: "The phrase 'this generation' should cause no difficulty for interpreters. While admittedly genea in earlier Greek meant birth, progeny, and so race, . . . in the [Greek Septuagint] it most frequently translated the Hebrew term dôr, meaning age, age of humankind, or generation in the sense of contemporaries. . . . In sayings attributed to Jesus the term appears to have a twofold connotation: on the one hand it always signifies his contemporaries, and on the other hand it always carries an implicit criticism."
So Jesus could have been directing that statement to the Jewish opposition there around him at that time, who, within a generation would see the destruction of Jerusalem in 66 - 70 C.E. by Titus, the son of Emperor Vespasian where 1,100,000 Jews died and 100,000 were taken captive, most of whom died horrible deaths and the Christians who knew it would come were saved. Matthew 24:16, 22. And Jesus may have been applying the same to those in opposition in the future as well.
(November 2, 2008 at 8:31 pm)Meatball Wrote: Would you mind showing which Old Testament prophecies say exactly when Jesus would be born?
What you ask of me will require some effort on my part and on your part if you actually pay any attention to what I put forth. You, uh - you willing to do that?