RE: Why Secular Morality is Superior
September 2, 2012 at 5:12 pm
(This post was last modified: September 2, 2012 at 5:18 pm by elunico13.)
(September 2, 2012 at 3:36 am)genkaus Wrote:(September 1, 2012 at 9:25 pm)elunico13 Wrote: You can't violate without having a freedom to choose.
Good thing we do have that freedom.
(September 1, 2012 at 9:25 pm)elunico13 Wrote: Baking soda doesn't choose to react with vinegar.
Good thing we are neither.
(September 1, 2012 at 9:25 pm)elunico13 Wrote: That's called chemistry, which is what you believe you are.
No we don't. Don't try to tell us what we believe.
(September 1, 2012 at 9:25 pm)elunico13 Wrote: The will of another is unimportant in an evolution worldview.
No, it's not.
(September 1, 2012 at 9:25 pm)elunico13 Wrote: No one is under your arbitrary "social contract" and obligated to obey whatever you say.
If they are a part of society, then yes, they are.
(September 1, 2012 at 9:25 pm)elunico13 Wrote: No pain no gain, right?
Wrong.
(September 1, 2012 at 9:25 pm)elunico13 Wrote: Why would you love random mutations from pond scum?
No one here loves you.
(September 1, 2012 at 9:25 pm)elunico13 Wrote: Any other society can arbitrarily assert the opposite.
Which is why we don't let fundies have that kind of power.
There aren't any rational objections here. They're all arbitrary. Kind of like the other thread. I see more emotional responses from you than anything. Why do you get like this if truth is "on your side"?
(September 2, 2012 at 9:22 am)Haydn Wrote: Yes we are taught by our parents when we our younger , but by wider society also as we get older. It's a bit like i said earlier about a pack Wolves punishing misdermeanors with a snarl , or a bite. They teach eachother by enforcing the code like we do , but do they teach eachother to bring a sick or injured pack member a lump of meat? And for that matter , can we actually learn to selflessly do good for a fellow human being , with no perceivable benefit other then the expected gratitude ?
I think mainly not , but i can see a Dawinian advantage to it.
So our parents and then society determine what is moral? Did I understand you correctly?
James Holmes acted consistent with what evolution teaches. He evolved from an animal, and when he murdered those people, He acted like one. You can't say he's wrong since evolution made him that way.