(September 2, 2012 at 11:52 am)Cinjin Wrote:(August 31, 2012 at 5:12 pm)Penhorse340 Wrote: Ok, here's my problem. I'm a Christian. I'm not mad keen on most other christians, we seem to attract more than our share of dicks. I'm downright embarrassed by mainstream christianities attempts at science. The bible seems to me full of contradiction and irrationality.
But here's the thing, religion offers something. An easy answer to lifes hard questions, a(broadly) functional moral code to live by, and something to cuddle when I get afraid of the dark (metaphysically speaking). I've heard religion described as a crutch and I think that's true. If I decide not to believe in god any longer, to throw away the crutch are there any upsides to replace all that stuff?
ok first of all, and this is VERY important, don't listen to ANYTHING this guy says, he's the fruitiest one we've got here.
(September 2, 2012 at 2:39 am)Godschild Wrote: Seems to me, for your life you have chosen Christianity as a crutch to hide from life, that's sad you know. You can not find in scripture that God is to be used as a crutch and Jesus taught that we are not exempted from the troubles of life, what He said was this, He would be there as a friend to always go through life with us hard parts and good parts.
If you think scriptures are bogus then why would you choose Christianity over other beliefs, if the first three chapters of Genesis are not true then all scripture is questionable. This would make God untrustworthy and in that my friend you should truly find yourself in a situation of discomfort.
Secondly, you only THINK religion offers you something. The truth is, you only hold onto it because like most everyone else, you're subconsciously (or maybe consciously) afraid of death and the finality of it all. First things first on that issue: You don't need religion to believe in an afterlife, and once you get rid of the idiocy of religion you probably won't care about the existence of an afterlife anyway.
Freedom is so so very sweet. I was a dumbfuck christian for nearly 20 years. The BEST thing I ever did in my life was get rid of that idiotic religion. Life is about 1000% better.
Yes and no. An atheist can have good luck in life just like a Muslim or Christian. Hitchens and Dawkins have done economically well, where as I am dirt poor.
I agree that it is better, in the sense that I am not stuck on utopias, and that the baggage of others projecting themselves on me is not as much an issue as it was when I did believe. And even outside the issue of religion, the projection of others as to "what I should do" as if life is a script, which it is not, it is a range. When I finally came to the realization that I could only be myself, it got better. I am still dirt poor. But I have met tons of miserable rich people.
Life really is what you make it and material things are not the measure of a human. I would much rather have a shorter life being poor than ending up like Gadaffi who was a billionaire who owned stock in GE.
Life will always have ups and downs, no matter class or nationality or race or religion. The ultimate sucky thing none of us can escape will happen to us all.
