RE: Better reasons to quit Christianity
September 3, 2012 at 1:40 pm
(This post was last modified: September 3, 2012 at 1:47 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 2, 2012 at 8:37 am)spockrates Wrote: Now, Rhythm tells me I'm wrong, and says that God's knowing she might bite, or might not bite is all he needs to know to destroy her freedom to choose. I'm still waiting for him to explain why he believes this. It seems to me that if I'm understanding him correctly, then no one is free--whether God exists, or not. For one does not need to be omniscient to see when someone has a choice to make.
I've already explained this to you dozens of times. If one's actions -can be known- regardless of whether they are known (or how they can be known, or by whom they can be known, or from what vantage point they can be known) then the events of the future are predestined, and not subject to choice, no matter how compelling the illusion may be to we mere mortals. Precognition, even in principle, requires knowledge. Not a guess, not a really good chance, knowledge. If anything knows what you will do, or could know what you will do, then your actions are set, fixed, determined, -not subject to choice-. When presented with even a simple "choice" between A or B it will go one way only, and it could go no other way.
Correct, once we invoke precognition, by anyone, anything, anyhow -even in principle- "no one is free".
Your constant requests to have this explained are extremely disingenuous. I'm done with you, enjoy talking to yourself. I know I have /sarcasm.
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