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Convert me!
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RE: Convert me!
(September 5, 2012 at 7:23 am)Brian37 Wrote:
Quote:That's interesting, you say life is better for you post deconversion (or whatever the correct term is). If it's not a rude question, were you raised as a Christian? Or were you atheist - Christian - atheist. I ask because my experience was atheist - Christian and I was miserable as an atheist.

You were miserable as an atheist, so? 7 billion people on this planet, some have it better than others, all of us have ups and downs and emotions are not static. A god is not required to explain why humans are happy or sad and an atheist being sad does not make a god real.

I am an atheist and my sister is a Christian. We both are emotional and both of us are dirt poor. Why? Not because of our labels, but because human evolution is a range and outcomes of individual lives may vary.

James Randi and Richard Dawkins are both rich atheists. Ann Romney suffers from MS, so seems her sky daddy seems to favor atheists over a Christian?

You were miserable as an atheist for the same reason I was miserable as a Christian. Because humans have emotions and life can affect all of us both positively and negatively. No need for Allah or Yahweh or Vishnu to explain mundane reality.

You went through some shit in your life, yea, so do most of the 7 billion of us.

You appear to misunderstand me. I'm absolutely not saying that christians are happier or richer or healthier than atheists. I'm saying that, personally, I made a shit job of being a human until I became a Christian at which point I started making a much better job of it. That's in no way proof god is real or even that Christianity is healthy, as has been undeniably shown, some people have the same improvement when they cross the other way!

I'm not saying Christianity IS helpful. One can't say that without evidence, numbers, statistics. I'm saying it CAN be helpful. And indeed it CAN be toxic. Those are facts.
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Convert me! - by Penhorse340 - August 31, 2012 at 5:12 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Tobie - August 31, 2012 at 5:14 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Minimalist - August 31, 2012 at 5:15 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Darwinian - August 31, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Welsh cake - August 31, 2012 at 5:43 pm
RE: Convert me! - by genkaus - August 31, 2012 at 5:45 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Reforged - August 31, 2012 at 6:01 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Kayenneh - August 31, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Simon Moon - August 31, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RE: Convert me! - by pocaracas - August 31, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Napoléon - August 31, 2012 at 6:37 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Cyberman - August 31, 2012 at 11:19 pm
RE: Convert me! - by ib.me.ub - September 1, 2012 at 1:50 am
RE: Convert me! - by Gooders1002 - September 1, 2012 at 4:48 am
RE: Convert me! - by pgrimes15 - September 1, 2012 at 8:41 am
RE: Convert me! - by Penhorse340 - September 1, 2012 at 10:06 am
RE: Convert me! - by Napoléon - September 1, 2012 at 11:19 am
RE: Convert me! - by Cyberman - September 1, 2012 at 1:58 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Penhorse340 - September 1, 2012 at 4:49 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Simon Moon - September 1, 2012 at 5:12 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Napoléon - September 1, 2012 at 7:45 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Cyberman - September 1, 2012 at 4:54 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Cyberman - September 1, 2012 at 5:16 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Simon Moon - September 1, 2012 at 5:27 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Faith No More - September 1, 2012 at 5:31 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Reforged - September 1, 2012 at 5:40 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Penhorse340 - September 2, 2012 at 4:11 am
RE: Convert me! - by Napoléon - September 2, 2012 at 8:18 am
RE: Convert me! - by Cyberman - September 1, 2012 at 5:36 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Brian37 - September 1, 2012 at 5:45 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Godschild - September 2, 2012 at 2:39 am
RE: Convert me! - by Cinjin - September 2, 2012 at 11:52 am
RE: Convert me! - by Brian37 - September 2, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RE: Convert me! - by KichigaiNeko - September 2, 2012 at 5:46 am
RE: Convert me! - by Penhorse340 - September 2, 2012 at 11:15 am
RE: Convert me! - by Napoléon - September 2, 2012 at 11:40 am
RE: Convert me! - by Penhorse340 - September 2, 2012 at 1:38 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Haydn - September 2, 2012 at 2:27 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Cinjin - September 3, 2012 at 5:02 pm
RE: Convert me! - by MysticKnight - September 2, 2012 at 1:45 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Penhorse340 - September 3, 2012 at 2:20 am
RE: Convert me! - by Napoléon - September 3, 2012 at 8:36 am
RE: Convert me! - by Penhorse340 - September 3, 2012 at 8:58 am
RE: Convert me! - by Faith No More - September 2, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: Convert me! - by LastPoet - September 3, 2012 at 8:45 am
RE: Convert me! - by Napoléon - September 3, 2012 at 9:08 am
RE: Convert me! - by Haydn - September 3, 2012 at 9:24 am
RE: Convert me! - by Penhorse340 - September 3, 2012 at 9:39 am
RE: Convert me! - by Haydn - September 3, 2012 at 9:44 am
RE: Convert me! - by jonb - September 3, 2012 at 9:47 am
RE: Convert me! - by jonb - September 3, 2012 at 9:20 am
RE: Convert me! - by TaraJo - September 3, 2012 at 9:37 am
RE: Convert me! - by Penhorse340 - September 3, 2012 at 9:54 am
RE: Convert me! - by Haydn - September 3, 2012 at 10:37 am
RE: Convert me! - by jonb - September 3, 2012 at 10:58 am
RE: Convert me! - by Penhorse340 - September 3, 2012 at 11:20 am
RE: Convert me! - by jonb - September 3, 2012 at 11:32 am
RE: Convert me! - by Penhorse340 - September 3, 2012 at 11:45 am
RE: Convert me! - by Haydn - September 3, 2012 at 11:55 am
RE: Convert me! - by jonb - September 3, 2012 at 12:04 pm
RE: Convert me! - by MeasH - September 3, 2012 at 12:16 pm
RE: Convert me! - by The Grand Nudger - September 3, 2012 at 1:57 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Erinome - September 3, 2012 at 3:33 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Cyberman - September 3, 2012 at 4:19 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Penhorse340 - September 5, 2012 at 5:13 am
RE: Convert me! - by jonb - September 5, 2012 at 5:47 am
RE: Convert me! - by Penhorse340 - September 5, 2012 at 5:55 am
RE: Convert me! - by Cyberman - September 5, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Brian37 - September 5, 2012 at 7:23 am
RE: Convert me! - by Penhorse340 - September 5, 2012 at 9:17 am
RE: Convert me! - by Napoléon - September 5, 2012 at 9:31 am
RE: Convert me! - by The Grand Nudger - September 5, 2012 at 7:06 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Cyberman - September 5, 2012 at 7:32 pm
RE: Convert me! - by pocaracas - September 6, 2012 at 6:04 am
RE: Convert me! - by Cyberman - September 6, 2012 at 12:30 pm
RE: Convert me! - by pocaracas - September 6, 2012 at 1:50 pm
RE: Convert me! - by Brian37 - September 6, 2012 at 7:54 pm

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