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Hundreds of proofs of nothing!
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RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing!
(September 2, 2012 at 5:53 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I look beyond such arguments. I believe in faith. If one believes in something, it is real for him. If one believes that one thing does not exist, it does not exist for him. It all comes down to faith. If you wish to see truth in these arguments, you will see truth. If you wish to see fallacies, you will see them. It all comes down to where your faith is directed to.

There are only 3 ways in which something can be said to exist.

1. As a concept of language.
2. As a concept of mind.
3. In reality.

So, when you say that, "if someone has faith that something exists, it exists (for them)", in which of the above ways does it exist for them?

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by MeasH - September 2, 2012 at 5:42 pm
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by kılıç_mehmet - September 2, 2012 at 5:53 pm
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by MeasH - September 2, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by kılıç_mehmet - September 2, 2012 at 6:15 pm
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by genkaus - September 2, 2012 at 10:26 pm
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by Simon Moon - September 12, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by Ryantology - September 12, 2012 at 3:47 pm
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by Gooders1002 - September 2, 2012 at 6:21 pm
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by MeasH - September 2, 2012 at 6:27 pm
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by padraic - September 2, 2012 at 6:51 pm
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by Ace Otana - September 12, 2012 at 4:27 am
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by Minimalist - September 2, 2012 at 6:53 pm
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by kılıç_mehmet - September 2, 2012 at 6:57 pm
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by FallentoReason - September 3, 2012 at 12:27 am
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by padraic - September 3, 2012 at 12:59 am
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by Faith No More - September 3, 2012 at 1:07 am
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by Mikethechristian - September 8, 2012 at 11:03 pm
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by cratehorus - September 8, 2012 at 11:04 pm
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by Tobie - September 12, 2012 at 3:02 am
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by Puddleglum - September 11, 2012 at 11:47 pm
RE: Hundreds of proofs of nothing! - by Minimalist - September 12, 2012 at 12:28 am

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