RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing
September 13, 2012 at 11:02 pm
(This post was last modified: September 13, 2012 at 11:22 pm by Drich.)
(September 13, 2012 at 2:52 am)greneknight Wrote:(September 13, 2012 at 1:08 am)Lion IRC Wrote: I'm glad you're here Drich.
What's the point? I find superstitious Christians quite pathetic. You believe in a bogeyman in the sky, like any kid of 3 but when mature folks want to debate, you flee, taking the indwelling Holy Spirit with you. I think atheists must find most superstitious Christians very hilarious and they probably treat you people as clowns. But it's ok. It's good Christian love to provide entertainment and laughter to these cerebral, thinking, logical, rational atheists. You guys have a pivotal role to play in our society.
But as a rational Christian (as opposed to a superstitious Christian), I find superstitious Christians dishonest and pathetic. If they are so sure they are correct, they should at least agree to debate with rational Christians. We can agree to confine ourselves to the Bible. It should be a battle on your own turf since you fundies should know the Bible like the back of your hand. But NOT ONE dares to take up the challenge.
Why the embarrassing cowardice? Why such fear? I submit there is only one reason. They know they are wrong. They would rather remain in their delusion than to let the truth free them.
This is the best example of intellectual dishonesty. There is no point insisting that you are not dishonest, my dear superstitious Christians. The only way to prove you are not dishonest is to agree to a DEBATE with the greneknight. But I know you won't dare to.
EDIT:
To avoid confusion, here are the definitions:
A superstitious Christian is a Christian who believes in the superstitious or supernatural aspects of the faith such as the existence of God as a being with independent will and thought.
A rational Christian is a Christian who does not accept supernatural nonsense. Superstitious = supernatural. Anything that is supernatural or superstitious is rejected.
So, you've dropped the Christian facade completely now, and gone with standard hate God hate Christianity thing?
(September 11, 2012 at 10:43 pm)greneknight Wrote: Romans 12:20: On the contrary: "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head."Yes it is.
Now, is it wrong for me to ask God to heap burning coals on people who wrong me?
Where in Romans 12 does it say to ask God to heap burning coals on anyone's head? It says if you want to do this the feed and water an emny. Did you feed and water anyone?
Quote:Let's not be insane, my dear Drich. If God says we are to feed our enemies and in doing so, burning coals will be heaped on his head, is it wrong to ask God to do what he says he will do anyway?Again where does it say burning coals will be heaped on anyone's head? Let look at the orginal greek shall we?
The word that is simply translated "heap" is: σωρεύω/sōreuō: metaph. to load one with the consciousness of many sins.
Quote:I submit, my Lord, that Drich, in saying this, is testifying to the fact that he thinks God is cruel and unjust. Even though God says he would pour burning coals on people's heads and he would burn souls with brimstone and fire, when greneknight asked God to do precisely what God has promised he would do, Drich maintains that greneknight is cruel. In fact, my Lord, it is my submission to this court that Drich is of the firm view that it is God who is cruel but he is, by virtue of his ridiculous faith, reluctant to so admit. Instead, he points the accusing finger on greneknight who is wholly innocent and, as Padriac has testified, is a perfectly guileless innocent lad. I urge this court to dismiss this baseless and vexatious action instituted by Drich against innocent greneknight.I counter by pointing out that Greneknight has neither the wisdom nor authority to judge who is to be punished. For he has shown an inablity to even properly discern the passage he misquoted, let alone exhibit level of desernment needed to judge another man. That said I have absolutly no issue with hot coals being heaped on anyone so long as God deems it approeiate. However I do not accept the foolish judgement of a scorned liar, to be in a position to righteously call down hell fire on anyone, especially when he has burned himself with it.