(September 14, 2012 at 12:26 am)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: God's existence is what is at question here. You're merely begging the question as far as I can tell.I am not begging anything. Again I am simply relaying The Promise God made to those who want 'proof.' If you have issue with how it is packaged or marketed then take it up with God. I can't change what He has established.
Quote:Maybe I was exposed to God. I can't seem to tell though. That's the problem.You were and are.. and I agree it is a problem. Do you wish to over come it? If so what are you willing to give to over come this problem?
Quote:Don't know what that is suppose to mean. I'm a trekkie so maybe that's the problem.That is why you fail to understand
Quote:I've done all of that crap before several times. But of course, you won't believe that because it didn't work for me. I guess I must have been "insincere" every time I did it.I believe you made an effort, and you probably did the best that you could. However your effort does not reflect the model of Ask, Seek and Knock as outlined in Luke 11.
Quote:And apparently, it's wrong now to be convinced by "sings and wonders."Signs and wonders are not wrong to experience, but at the same time they should not be what you are looking to build your faith on. If your heart is set on signs and wonders to build your faith on you will be disappointed.
Quote: In your "knock knock" conversion, if any thing spectacular is excluded from being given to the sincere, then I guess what's left is just vague feelings. Really, what is given by God to the sincere knock knock person?Awareness of the presents of God, Via the "Fruits" and "Gifts" of the Holy Spirit. In essence one has God personally indwell them, and the more faithful you are to what has been give to you, the more the more 'aware' you become.
To the point where one can ask anything of God and He will grant what has be ask (not to be confused with prayer)