RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing
September 15, 2012 at 9:41 am
(This post was last modified: September 15, 2012 at 9:47 am by greneknight.)
(September 15, 2012 at 9:21 am)Drich Wrote:(September 15, 2012 at 2:24 am)greneknight Wrote: It's obvious. There's no reason to hide. Since you do use the Protestant Bible with 66 books, you might as well come clean and admit it.Actually I have used, debated and included passages from the books of Macabees, Quoted from the wisdoms of Soloman, and referenced passages from susanna when teaching a study on the book of Daniel. So again why do you assume that I am limited to the 66 books of the Cannon of the 'prodestant' bible?
There you go again. Evasive like you've done something wrong. You are so typical of many believing Christians. Always evasive. Having quoted from these books doesn't mean a thing. You do not accept these books as the word of God. Or do you? Or is it a secret that you want to keep because you are ashamed of your beliefs?
(September 15, 2012 at 9:21 am)Drich Wrote:(September 13, 2012 at 11:34 pm)greneknight Wrote: I know of no church council that settled on only the 66 books of the Protestant Bible. Can you tell me which church council that is? Come on, if it's a council you accept, surely you'd know the name of it.Father Athanasius may have provided the orginal list, but he did not have the authority to close the canon of scripture on his own. If you really want to know what council he was apart of then do a google search Maybe you will find something there.
*Note just because History credits one man with an event or feat of some kind does not mean he did it alone.
I'm telling you there is no such council that decides your Protestant canon for you. I don't have to search google. I know it. You are the one who believes in the Protestant canon or you are ashamed to admit which canon you accept and would rather be evasive.
You are wrong. Your lack of knowledge here immediately tells me you are a fundy. All fundies don't know a thing about the canon and they don't even teach these things in fundy seminaries because the minute you know the history of the canon, you lose your fundyism.
Athanasius agrees only on the New Testament canon. The New Testament canon is not in dispute in any of the churches. It's the Old Testament canon that is in dispute. Athanasius includes Book of Baruch and Letter of Jeremiah in the Old Testament canon and he excludes Esther from the canon.
As you can see, there is not a single Father or Church Council that decides on a canon that is precisely the canon of fundies like yourself. So if I ask you what the word of God is, you will be at a total loss. You can't say it's the 66 books. You are not sure. Perhaps that is why you are so evasive and you refuse to state categorically what books constitute the Word of God.
(September 15, 2012 at 9:21 am)Drich Wrote:(September 15, 2012 at 2:24 am)greneknight Wrote: If you have no basis to reject the other Church councils, can I assume that you accept ALL church councils?Noope.
(September 15, 2012 at 9:21 am)Drich Wrote:(September 15, 2012 at 2:24 am)greneknight Wrote: If not, are you then admitting that you reject church councils without basis? What makes you choose which church councils to accept then?Noope, again. Why do you assume that I have accepted or denied anything???
You replied "Noope" to my question whether you accept ALL church councils. That means you reject at least some church councils. I'm not assuming anything even though you want to be evasive. So, I'm asking you - what makes you choose which church councils to accept and which to reject?