My debate in Christian Forums in full swing

[greneknight]

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There you go again. Evasive like you've done something wrong.

I answer the exact question you asked, if you did not get an answer you understand then either, you have persume or rely too heavily on your understanding of the subject at hand. or perhaps you should ask another (more complete) question. Or a series of them.

You are so typical of many believing Christians. Always evasive. Having quoted from these books doesn't mean a thing. You do not accept these books as the word of God. Or do you?

I accepted them as suplimentary books of the bible. they have their place and play a role in my faith. They are Not to be discounted nor are they to countermand canonical books.

Or is it a secret that you want to keep because you are ashamed of your beliefs?

That's just it you haven't asked what I believe. just how i view the catholic books of the bible. To that you have your answer.

I'm telling you there is no such council that decides your Protestant canon for you.

Straw Man. Show me where I said there was a protestant council that.. bla bla bla..

You are wrong.

You presume too much and over speak your position, by misrepersenting me.

Your lack of knowledge here immediately tells me you are a fundy. All fundies don't know a thing about the canon and they don't even teach these things in fundy seminaries because the minute you know the history of the canon, you lose your fundyism.

Athanasius agrees only on the New Testament canon. The New Testament canon is not in dispute in any of the churches. It's the Old Testament canon that is in dispute. Athanasius includes Book of Baruch and Letter of Jeremiah in the Old Testament canon and he excludes Esther from the canon.

As you can see, there is not a single Father or Church Council that decides on a canon that is precisely the canon of fundies like yourself. So if I ask you what the word of God is, you will be at a total loss. You can't say it's the 66 books. You are not sure. Perhaps that is why you are so evasive and you refuse to state categorically what books constitute the Word of God.

again you persume too much, you are so in need to spew what you believe you know, you force the conversation to present you with oppertunities to flourish and praise yourself. You are an insecure fool. Why else would you need to praise yourself over another like this? You ask a question in your last paragraph and rather than let me answer. you assumed an answer yourself in away that allowed you to praise yourself, rather than give me an oppertunity to keep you from said self praise. In this behavior i do believe you are a 13 year old boy as you claim to be on CF.

You replied "Noope" to my question whether you accept ALL church councils. That means you reject at least some church councils.

If you put my two answer together you will see that I have no opinion of the Chruch counsils. The reason I do not have an opinion is because I do not care. My faith my beliefs do not hinge one what any one counsil may or may not have concluded. My faith does not tie me to what demoniational worship decideds for itself. Not that it is wrong for those who worship that way. I simply do not need another to tell me what to believe or what not to believe. Because in the End God is my judge and I am answerable to Him, and not any given council.

So now, you are UNABLE to support your canon of scriptures with any Early Church Father or Church Council because, as I have told you, there's none. In your ignorance, you chose Athanasius (like any fundy would) only to be shown you were wrong. So I ask you again, what is the basis for your belief that the 66 books of the Bible are the inspired word of God? Do you have a basis for such a belief?