Products of Chance

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I've heard atheists say,

“I believe that the universe was created out of nothing by chance.”

But chance can’t create anything. It’s a word that we use to describe or talk about probabilities. If I flip a coin the chances of it landing heads up if flipped (assuming it doesn’t land on its side) is 50%. But if it does land heads up, chance didn't "cause" it to flip, I did. "Chance" doesn't stand in casual relation to things.

“Chance” as the cause of the universe seems silly.

What do you guys think?

I never heard any atheist use the word "created'' and universe in the same sentence.

And that whole...once upon a time there was nothing and then Bang, something...idea has really gone out of fashion with atheists.

So, for crying out loud, please get with the program will YA?

The past-eternal universe has always existed in one form or another, and one thing simply follows another and if something looks fine-tuned it's not really because there are an infinite number of multiverses out there somewhere and if you get enough of them eventually one will produce monkeys with the randomly evolved IQ gene, all typing out Shakespearean Sonnets backwards on their Ipads, and theres no such thing as a problem of suffering in this absurd little uni/multi/mega/whateververse because were atheists
...and thats just how we roll