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A chance to do good without god
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A chance to do good without god
I just got an email from a business colleague and his daughter is doing a jump rope thing to raise money for the American Heart Association.

She wants to raise $200. I thought it might be cool to see if any of you great people might want to do a little good without god and throw a few bucks her way. Maybe we can get her to $2000 instead!

Her name is Evin. Shes a good kid.

https://www.kintera.org/faf/donorReg/don...=376108268
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." -Einstein
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RE: A chance to do good without god
If I had any money to donate it certainly wouldn't be going to help people in north america
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RE: A chance to do good without god
(February 17, 2013 at 11:27 pm)iameatingjam Wrote: If I had any money to donate it certainly wouldn't be going to help people in north america

Why not? Is someone suffering from heart disease somehow less worthy of help just because he/she lives in the US? Is someone more deserving to die just because of geography?
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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RE: A chance to do good without god
(February 18, 2013 at 4:20 am)Kayenneh Wrote:
(February 17, 2013 at 11:27 pm)iameatingjam Wrote: If I had any money to donate it certainly wouldn't be going to help people in north america

Why not? Is someone suffering from heart disease somehow less worthy of help just because he/she lives in the US? Is someone more deserving to die just because of geography?

Absolutely not, I just feel that there are people more in need such as starving african children. A lot of people suffering from heart disease have already had a chance to live.

That was a little harsh though yes, I don't know why I said it like that. What I meant was "If I had a choice between donating $10 to middle age americans or starving 10 years olds, it would go to the 10 year olds."
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RE: A chance to do good without god
It's better to ask people off of this site that you actually know.
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RE: A chance to do good without god
(February 22, 2013 at 8:45 pm)PyroManiac Wrote: It's better to ask people off of this site that you actually know.

She actually did that. However, seeing as I had previously started a thread about good without god, I thought this might be a fitting counterpart.

I realize I don't know the people on this board. Consider this a lesson in the vast diversity of good things we can do without invoking god.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." -Einstein
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RE: A chance to do good without god
(February 18, 2013 at 9:11 pm)iameatingjam Wrote: That was a little harsh though yes, I don't know why I said it like that. What I meant was "If I had a choice between donating $10 to middle age americans or starving 10 years olds, it would go to the 10 year olds."

Fair enough, and I understand your reasoning. Smile
For me though, I don't care about one's backgrounds, suffering is suffering and I have no scruples to donate for medical reasons.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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RE: A chance to do good without god
(February 15, 2013 at 5:19 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote: I just got an email from a business colleague and his daughter is doing a jump rope thing to raise money for the American Heart Association.

She wants to raise $200. I thought it might be cool to see if any of you great people might want to do a little good without god and throw a few bucks her way. Maybe we can get her to $2000 instead!

Her name is Evin. Shes a good kid.

https://www.kintera.org/faf/donorReg/don...=376108268

If she is a good kid - you need to explain how to choose a worthy charity to her. One that actually spends most of the money it collects on the stated malady/event.

THe AHA ranks very low as a charity and spends more money on administration and fund raising than anything else.

I prefer the Deborah Hospital in Brown's Mills NJ - where more than 95% of the money they collect is for care for those who cannot pay. They do NOT use paid services to collect money - all of the people are volunteers - and their only expenses are in postage and printing.
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RE: A chance to do good without god
(February 27, 2013 at 3:40 pm)ThomM Wrote:
(February 15, 2013 at 5:19 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote: I just got an email from a business colleague and his daughter is doing a jump rope thing to raise money for the American Heart Association.

She wants to raise $200. I thought it might be cool to see if any of you great people might want to do a little good without god and throw a few bucks her way. Maybe we can get her to $2000 instead!

Her name is Evin. Shes a good kid.

https://www.kintera.org/faf/donorReg/don...=376108268

If she is a good kid - you need to explain how to choose a worthy charity to her. One that actually spends most of the money it collects on the stated malady/event.

THe AHA ranks very low as a charity and spends more money on administration and fund raising than anything else.

I prefer the Deborah Hospital in Brown's Mills NJ - where more than 95% of the money they collect is for care for those who cannot pay. They do NOT use paid services to collect money - all of the people are volunteers - and their only expenses are in postage and printing.

While I agree with you in principal, they came to her school and asked the kids to get involved. She's 10. Give her a break for not researching the organization.

I want to do this more to make her feel good about herself and let her know that the world is actually a pretty decent place in spite of the fucked up things we do to each other.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." -Einstein
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