RE: Products of Chance
September 18, 2012 at 4:00 pm
(This post was last modified: September 18, 2012 at 4:06 pm by Haydn2.)
(September 17, 2012 at 7:50 pm)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote: I've heard atheists say,
“I believe that the universe was created out of nothing by chance.”
But chance can’t create anything. It’s a word that we use to describe or talk about probabilities. If I flip a coin the chances of it landing heads up if flipped (assuming it doesn’t land on its side) is 50%. But if it does land heads up, chance didn't "cause" it to flip, I did. "Chance" doesn't stand in casual relation to things.
“Chance” as the cause of the universe seems silly.
What do you guys think?
This is the exact opposite of a strawman as it describes quite adequately why god would be an un-needed irrelevance in the creation of anything , even the universe.
The decription of chance is accurate , it is an illusion and only exists when the conclusion of something is un-known . Possiblitys only exist when the conclusion is unknown , or we havn't made our mind up yet , but the result is always what it would have been. Which i why don't believe in alternative realitys , free will ,or fate .
Putting these for-gone conclusions into reverse , you see things go perfectly smoothly ,with out the need for any super-natural intervention.
With the creation of man , the creation of life , the Earth , Solar system and even the universe (and thats as far back as we can see).
One event leading to the next , with no need for any tweaking .
You add a god to the equation and however powerful it would be , he would also be part of an stoppbale chain of events. So completly
pointless.
