RE: Most accurate prophecies EVAR! xD
November 5, 2008 at 12:33 pm
(This post was last modified: November 5, 2008 at 12:43 pm by Daystar.)
(November 3, 2008 at 12:49 pm)Tiberius Wrote:Quote:What you ask of me will require some effort on my part and on your part if you actually pay any attention to what I put forth. You, uh - you willing to do that?It really shouldn't require effort on either side. You simply have to find the Bible verse that accurately predicted when Jesus came and then paste it for us to read (a link to the biblegateway.com passage would suffice). Seeing as you are so convinced this passage exists, you must know precisely where it is, or your argument is simply a guess.
Anyway, yes, I will pay attention to the passage. Please paste it for us.
In the 6th century B.C.E. the prophet Daniel foretold that the "Messiah the Leader" would appear 69 "weeks" after the order went forth to restore and rebuild Jerusalem.
Daniel 9:24 - 25 - There are seventy weeks that have been determined upon your people and upon your holy city, in order to terminate the transgression, and to finish off sin, and to make atonement for error, and to bring in righteousness for times indefinite, and to imprint a seal upon vision and prophet, and to anoint the Holy of Holies. And you should know and have the insight [that] from the going forth of [the] word to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah [the] Leader, there will be seven weeks, also sixty-two weeks. She will return and be actually rebuilt, with a public square and moat, but in the straits of the times.
By Jewish account each of these weeks were 7 years long, because just as every seventh day was a Sabbath every seventh year was a sabbath. (Exodus 20:8-11 / 23:10, 11.)
According to the Bible and secular history the order to restore Jerusalem went out in 455 B.C.E. (Nehemiah 2:1-8 - And it came about in the month Nisan, in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes the king, that wine was before him, and I as usual took up the wine and gave it to the king. But never had I happened to be gloomy before him. So the king said to me: "Why is your face gloomy when you yourself are not sick? This is nothing but a gloominess of heart." At this I became very much afraid.
Then I said to the king: "Let the king himself live to time indefinite! Why should not my face become gloomy when the city, the house of the burial places of my forefathers, is devastated, and its very gates have been eaten up with fire?" In turn the king said to me: "What is this that you are seeking to secure?" At once I prayed to the God of the heavens. After that I said to the king: "If to the king it does seem good, and if your servant seems good before you, that you would send me to Judah, to the city of the burial places of my forefathers, that I may rebuild it." At this the king said to me, as his queenly consort was sitting beside him: "How long will your journey come to be and when will you return?" So it seemed good before the king that he should send me, when I gave him the appointed time.
And I went on to say to the king: "If to the king it does seem good, let letters be given me to the governors beyond the River, that they may let me pass until I come to Judah; also a letter to Asaph the keeper of the park that belongs to the king, that he may give me trees to build with timber the gates of the Castle that belongs to the house, and for the wall of the city and for the house into which I am to enter." So the king gave [them] to me, according to the good hand of my God upon me.)
So the Jews knew that 483 (69 X 7) years after 455 B.C.E. the Messiah would come. That is when Jesus was anointed by Jehovah's holy spirit - the Christ (Messiah) meaning "anointed one" at 29 C.E. (Luke 3:15, 16, 21, 22.)
Second coming
King David prophetically said that Jesus as Lord would sit at Jehovah's right hand until his enemies are as a stool for your feet. (Psalm 110:1 / Acts 2:34 - 36) As for Jesus' return - the Greek word parousia is used which means presence not a physical return to Earth. Remember his human body was sacrificed once for all time. There would be a period of time before Jesus would be King.
God's Kingdom On Earth
There is only one place where God put his name, an earthly representation of God's Kingdom. Jerusalem. (1 Kings 11:36) In 607 the sin of Jerusalem caused God to bring the Babylonians to destroy Jerusalem and to end the line of Kings. This began a period of time known as "the appointed times of the nations." A period of time when Jehovah had no earthly representation. No kings.
There would be a new King representing his Kingdom much later.
"Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled." Luke 21:24.
Daniel indicated that the appointed times of the nations would last "seven times." (Daniel 4:23 - 25) The Bible also indicates that three and a half "times" equal 1,260 days (Revelation 12:6, 14) Twice that would be seven times or 2,520 days. Nothing happened in that many days but if you use the day for a year - since the Bible often uses this reconing (Numbers 14:34 / Ezekiel 4:6 you come up with the year 1914.
Isaac Newton along with other theologians place an importance upon this date. It is likely that it is the date of Christ's "return," or parousia. Presence.
(November 5, 2008 at 11:33 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Of course this isn't evidence of God or a prophecy. You can't use scripture(s) as evidence.
If you can perhaps I should buy the FSM gospel and you and me, Daystar, can have an argument of who is the truth , Yahweh and/or Jesus or the FSM.
I can't use scripture as evidence of God or a prophecy because? Give me a reason.
What is the FSM gospel?
