To the Moderators, please!

[greneknight]

Right, just to close the case on this bullshit merchant;
- Godschild told me he apparently didn't even agree to the debate with Grene in the first place and I'm fully inclined to trust him on this one. Despite this Grene saw fit to make a thread on the subject of an upcoming debate with Godschild.

This is rubbish. I have asked you to look at this post but you persistently refuse to: http://atheistforums.org/thread-14612-po...#pid336363. So I'll spell it out.

This is what godschild says:

The little boy was the one who challenged me to a debate on scripture, I let him know what swords I would bring to the debate. He took a dive under his round table when he saw the translations I would use. Then he deflects his original statement with this junk. I use the NASB and the ESB because they are recognized as two of the best translations of scripture.

Whereupon, if you look at that post, I responded with this:

OK, I didn't know you looked at it this way. You can use whatever translation you want. Let's have a DEBATE. THE FINAL BATTLE OF THE UNIVERSE!!! Shall I create a new thread for us to debate in? What will the motion of the debate be?

I suggest this: "The Bible contains untruths, falsehoods and even deliberate lies". I will propose the motion and you presumably oppose it. Is that a deal?

godschild, from his post, clearly intends to debate with me. He has gone so far as to say that I have ducked under the table to evade a debate. To say he had no intention to debate with me is a dreadful lie. I have come here specifically to debate with these cowardly Christians and the last thing I would do is to forgo the opportunity of a debate. I showed enthusiasm immediately and asked what the motion should be. Since godschild has claimed that I'm not a "scriptural" or "biblical" Christian, I suggested a debate on the Bible that he holds so dear. I clearly said "I suggest...". Before that, I asked what the motion of the debate should be. Did he come back with a reply of an alternative motion? Did he say the motion I suggested was not something he wants to debate on because he can't defend against my very truthful accusation that the Bible contains untruths and deliberate lies? No, he said nothing.

If godschild insists that I'm NOT a Christian because of a document, surely to defend myself, I am allowed to discredit the document? Since godschild says I'm not a Christian because of the Bible the correct approach to solve this matter is for me to bring the Bible into question. It's for him to defend the Bible which he is, after all, using to say I'm not a Christian.

For some reason, RaphielDrake, you seem to be totally blind to this.

My whole purpose of joining this forum (as well as Christian Forums) was to engage in a debate with Christians. I did get going somewhat in Christian Forums before they banned me (for being a non-Christian - they have strict rules on what constitutes a Christian and only a Christian can participate in debates). For a while, I thought godschild and Lion would be prepared to have a debate with me in AF but they both pulled out before we could even begin.

Then you could ask Drich, if you still want to debate a Christian. I think he'd be willing to participate in this.

But, of course, that's up to you.

Thanks, Rayaan, for your suggestion. But Drich has made it clear from the start that he would not want to enter into a debate. Lion greeted Drich when he first entered AF and added the icon of two swordsmen fighting which I thought was inappropriate seeing that Drich refused to debate with me when we were in Christian Forums together. I greeted him with these words: "What's the point? I find superstitious Christians quite pathetic. You believe in a bogeyman in the sky, like any kid of 3 but when mature folks want to debate, you flee, taking the indwelling Holy Spirit with you."

The post appears here: http://atheistforums.org/thread-14712-po...#pid335937

If you look further down that thread, you will see Drich's reply. He didn't want to take up my offer of a debate. But of course he wouldn't. All the Christians have made it clear even in CF that they won't debate with me. I only managed to get Dysert to engage in a debate and you can see the outcome for yourself. At every step of the way, I was cautioned that I might have flouted the Nicene Creed which would mean an immediate ban. Finally, they banned me just as I posted my rebuttal and they wanted it to appear as if I had given up the debate. Thankfully, someone posted something that he thought I might be banned and his post was removed. They then closed the whole debate thread. You can see it for yourself here:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7685355/

I had hoped to be able to debate with one of these Christians in AF because I don't have to worry about flouting some silly Creed and get banned. But I was disappointed to see the same cowardice that I see in every Christian forum. Until I saw godschild's post which I took to be an open challenge to a debate especially when he claimed I ducked under the table to evade a debate. But as it turned out, he now says he has no intention of debating with me.

I'm disappointed I am unable to get any Christian to engage in a debate. It's funny because if they place so much store by their holy book, why can't they gather enough courage to do a debate? But Christians work in mysterious ways so I shan't speculate.

Of course if I can be proven wrong and ANY Christian is willing to debate with me, I shall be happy to do so. It can be on any subject that is a defence of your beliefs as a Christian and it must have some supernatural element. It can be on the Bible, on God, on Jesus, on the resurrection but it should have some supernatural element that you believe in and I obviously don't.