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Why aren't you a Christian?
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RE: Why aren't you a Christian?
(September 20, 2012 at 9:55 pm)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote: I am not a Muslim/Sikh because the Quran doesn't not match the historical information we have regarding Jesus of Nazareth.
How much do we know about Jesus for certain at all? Tongue

(September 20, 2012 at 9:55 pm)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote: The Quran teaches that Jesus was nailed to a cross and crucified. History says he was.
Seems like you just forgot to type the word "not" there, because the Quran says that Jesus was not crucified nor killed, but says that he was only raised up (alive) by God as a manifestation of one of His miracles when seized by his opponents and to protect him from any harm and humiliation. Of course, there is no historical evidence to support that belief in the first place, and that's why your statement that the Quran doesn't "match the historical information" can't be proven nor disproven.

As for the Christian view, on the other hand, I've also heard that there are many different and contradictory accounts of the crucifixion story, which makes the belief in crucifixion historically weaker and altogether more implausible. Also, to my knowledge, no contemporary writing or immediately following Jesus' time mention a thing about some of the extraordinary events surrounding the story of his alleged crucifixion. See the article below:

Quote:Early depictions of the Passion of Christ tended to omit the crucifixion, and there are very few representations of it in the Early Christian and Early Byzantine period. The Basque Crucifixion was shown to be a modern fake created by Basque separatists; who's represented in the Alexamenos Graffito will never be certain, nor can it be dated with much certainty; and the fresco in a tomb on the Esquiline pre-dates the Christian period by several centuries. Several graffiti from Pompeii mention crucifixion but as a Roman insult or punishment (source). Although the Romans used crucifixion regularly, again in pre-Christian art it was very rarely depicted. There are very few images of crucifixion, and not all can be linked to Jesus' crucifixion.
http://phdiva.blogspot.com/2011/08/early...ixion.html
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Why aren't you a Christian? - by Reasonable_Jeff - September 20, 2012 at 7:25 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by jonb - September 20, 2012 at 7:30 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Rayaan - September 20, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by MysticKnight - September 20, 2012 at 7:45 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by The Grand Nudger - September 20, 2012 at 7:50 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Cyberman - September 20, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by pocaracas - September 20, 2012 at 8:31 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by jonb - September 20, 2012 at 8:46 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Reasonable_Jeff - September 20, 2012 at 9:55 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by jonb - September 20, 2012 at 10:03 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Mister Agenda - September 21, 2012 at 3:08 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Reasonable_Jeff - September 21, 2012 at 7:28 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by MysticKnight - September 20, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Erinome - September 20, 2012 at 8:40 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Cyberman - September 20, 2012 at 8:44 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Polaris - September 20, 2012 at 8:45 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Cyberman - September 20, 2012 at 8:49 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Reasonable_Jeff - September 20, 2012 at 8:53 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by jonb - September 20, 2012 at 8:55 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Darkstar - September 20, 2012 at 9:08 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Minimalist - September 20, 2012 at 9:16 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Waratah - September 20, 2012 at 9:43 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Cyberman - September 20, 2012 at 10:01 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Reasonable_Jeff - September 21, 2012 at 5:25 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Cyberman - September 21, 2012 at 5:43 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Rayaan - September 20, 2012 at 10:54 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Erinome - September 20, 2012 at 11:03 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by MysticKnight - September 20, 2012 at 11:29 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Rayaan - September 21, 2012 at 5:38 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by MysticKnight - September 21, 2012 at 1:48 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Rayaan - September 21, 2012 at 4:14 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by MysticKnight - September 21, 2012 at 4:25 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Erinome - September 20, 2012 at 11:50 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Minimalist - September 21, 2012 at 12:21 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by MysticKnight - September 21, 2012 at 12:33 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by FallentoReason - September 21, 2012 at 12:38 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Minimalist - September 21, 2012 at 1:14 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Cyberman - September 21, 2012 at 1:31 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Kayenneh - September 21, 2012 at 5:41 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by frankiej - September 21, 2012 at 6:22 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Rayaan - September 21, 2012 at 4:37 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by MysticKnight - September 21, 2012 at 7:59 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by CapnAwesome - September 21, 2012 at 9:22 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Cato - September 22, 2012 at 1:34 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Reasonable_Jeff - September 22, 2012 at 9:44 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Reforged - September 22, 2012 at 9:53 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by KichigaiNeko - September 22, 2012 at 7:40 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Reforged - September 22, 2012 at 7:51 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Dumac Dwarfking - September 22, 2012 at 8:20 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Reforged - September 22, 2012 at 9:43 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Tino - September 22, 2012 at 8:38 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Reasonable_Jeff - September 22, 2012 at 9:32 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Cyberman - September 22, 2012 at 11:17 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Reasonable_Jeff - September 25, 2012 at 5:53 am
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Rev. Rye - September 22, 2012 at 12:15 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Annik - September 22, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by AtheistAmes - September 22, 2012 at 4:13 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by LastPoet - September 22, 2012 at 4:40 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Cyberman - September 22, 2012 at 5:01 pm
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RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Angrboda - September 22, 2012 at 8:25 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by TaraJo - September 22, 2012 at 8:53 pm
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RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Angrboda - September 23, 2012 at 4:42 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Whatkins - September 23, 2012 at 4:57 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by chisto - September 23, 2012 at 10:58 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Angrboda - September 23, 2012 at 11:23 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by chisto - September 23, 2012 at 11:32 pm
RE: Why aren't you a Christian? - by Jackalope - September 23, 2012 at 11:38 pm
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