If You whip children with Sticks you are a child abuser and deserve to be in jail.

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Both, I did not know that I needed to make a distinction.

And this is why you are a Christian. Do. Not. Question. The. Authority.

No, I made the choice long after I left home.

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Three pages into this conversation and nobody has gone 'nuclear' with the Deuteronomy passage about stoning the little bastards to death. Fuck the rod, let's talk about stoning 'stubborn' kids to death.

C'mon god-botherers, come with your stone=nerf ball, death=timeout apology bullshit.

You are speaking of grown children, please study the scriptures and the history of the times before you make idiotic statements.

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I was quite a handful as a child and I believe the whippings I got were the only thing that kept me in line and taught me respect for others.

I was quite the handful too, and my parent never laid a hand upon me. All I needed was the phrase "What would Dad/Mom say about this?" in order to constantly think things through before I did anything. For granted, as any other child does, I did my share of mischief, but I was always respectful towards my parents and felt the appropriate amount of shame when they were disappointed in me. The only 'rebellion' I did was to study to become a nurse against their recommendation. Yet, I got good grades in school, ate my veggies, came home at appropriate hours etc. without corporal punishment.
My sister has three energetic boys aged three and four and they all respond really well to verbal chastising when needed and are seldom disrespectful, because she and her husband have taken the time to explain to them 'why' instead of losing their tempers and hit the boys.
If you were beaten as a child, I'm not surprised why you are the way you are today..

You have no idea who I am, and I was not beaten as a child I was spanked, there's a big difference yet it seems to mystify you. My parents never spanked me out of anger, nor was spanking their first choice, they did sit me down and explain their disappointment with my actions. When I disregarded their verbal reprimand I was spanked, so take your stupid ideas of what my family was like and give them a serious rework. I'm glad your parents had a little angel to raise, mine had a little devil yet with their great understanding and appropriate discipline I turned out well.