(September 17, 2009 at 10:48 am)binny Wrote: Well me being a democrat and a bleeding heart liberal is all in favor of socialism. Yes! Give me that socialized medicine, socialized schools, socialized police, socialized firefighters, socialized highways..........
Plus of course free or subsidised hookers for the chronically ugly or old and ugly.
I'm always a bit bemused by claims of being 'for moral values' as I'm not really sure what is meant. Are such people implying that the rest of us don't support moral values? Or perhaps that their values (such as the work ethic) are absolute moral imperatives?
EG I've already stated I see capitalism as innately IMMORAL. This is nothing unusual,simply a Marxist view.
@Adrian
Yours is a classic case of a class traitor due to false consciousness.
Quote:False consciousness is the Marxist thesis that material and institutional processes in capitalist society are misleading to the proletariat, and to other classes. These processes betray the true relations of forces between those classes, and the real state of affairs regarding the development of pre-socialist society (relative to the secular development of human society in general).
This is essentially a result of ideological control which the proletariat either do not know they are under or disregard with a view to their own POUM (probability/possibility of upward mobility)[1]. POUM (not to be confused with the Workers' Party of Marxist Unification, POUM) or something like it is required in economics with its presumption of rational agency; otherwise wage laborers would be the conscious supporters of social relations antithetical to their own interests, violating that presumption[2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_consciousness