(September 21, 2012 at 8:14 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: 1: He lived a perfect life, huh? Is that why we only know of about 10% of his life? Is that why there's a ~30 year gap in his life? I get the impression it's because the fiction-writers...er, sorry, the gospel-writers lacked the confidence in their own abilities to write something that could be considered objectively perfect...
That is an interesting theory you have. The Christian belief of Christ's sinlessness comes from scripture though. Scriptures like:
"He committed no sin, neither was deceit found in his mouth. When he was reviled, he did not revile in return; when he suffered, he did not threaten, but continued entrusting himself to him who judges justly. He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you were healed." -1 Peter 2:22-24
(September 21, 2012 at 8:14 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: or maybe the Council of Nicea was not satisfied with their depictions of Christ's "perfect life" and cast them out after realizing that nobody would ever find it to be perfect.
Maybe, this too is an interesting theory. I don't know that there are any contemporary scholars that hold this view.
(September 21, 2012 at 8:14 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: You make the claim; where's the proof? Don't claim to be correcting people when you don't even really give a valid explanation of why it's being corrected. A claim is not a correction; it's a differing of opinion, little more.
Since I'm speaking for Christian beliefs, the proofs as we (Christians) would take them are scripture. I didn't provide scripture with any of the belief statements because I assumed you fellas (and any ladies) would prefer that I left them out.
If there are certain beliefs that you wish to know where they come from scripturally please let me know and I will be happy to oblige.
(September 21, 2012 at 8:14 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: 2: Basically if you "accept Jesus" then you get judged by his works, not your own. And since you can live no perfect life and god apparently only accepts those who lead perfect lives, you can only get into heaven via Jesus, ergo you can be the scummiest human being on earth as long as you accept Jesus, whereas the nicest, kindest, most selfless human being on the planet can be shoved off to burn for eternity because he didn't let his life get judged as Jesus' life, because, heh, only Jesus was perfect, right?
You nailed it. A perfect life is not one in which it is lived for others but a life that is lived for God. The selfless person would still be guilty of sin by trying to live a life apart from God.
The essence of sin is that we choose things, love things, like things, and do things that show we do not value God above those things.
(September 21, 2012 at 8:14 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: Basically Jesus SUFFERED for a week for me
Well, the Bible teaches that a transaction happened on the cross and the sins of those that would come to place their faith in Him were paid for.
So if he did die for you, there will be a day when you too will see Jesus as lovely and glorious like I do. Just a matter of time my friend.
(September 21, 2012 at 8:14 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: but his mortal life apparently was never surrendered
Actually it was his mortal life that was surrendered, it was His divine nature that never died.
(September 21, 2012 at 8:14 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: Seriously, where IS that heaven, exactly?
Different dimension perhaps?
(September 21, 2012 at 8:14 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: Silliness. All of it.
If you are correct in your worldview, then yes. Christians are to be pitied for our foolishness.
If I am correct, it means I get to spend eternity in heaven with Jesus my Savior and Redeemer.
Wagering this short life seems like a pretty safe bet when the stakes are eternity.
