RE: Why aren't you a Christian?
September 21, 2012 at 7:59 pm
(This post was last modified: September 21, 2012 at 8:01 pm by Mystic.)
I will post a variety of reasons, although they all factor in, none of them are reasons in themselves as to why I'm not Christian.
1) The trinity.
It seems if they are all distinct, then they are three gods, each being worthy of worship. And it seems this was the want to worship Jesus and God at the same time, but they wanted to blind people to this fact with sophistry.
So they say the father and son and holy spirit are all one god.
But if this is true, then it means the father and the son are the same. And it would mean that God is both the father of himself and the son of himself.
This is of course non sense. If God is appearing in three persons, then he is appearing as son of himself and father of himself which makes no sense either.
At any rate, I don't buy into trinity, and I would say Christianity worships Jesus as well as the father, which makes two gods already, which makes them not monotheistic.
Further to this, is that the father is said to be greater then Jesus, which means they are not identical.
2) Love of world and the things in the world
It's not only forbidden to love the world and the things in the world, it is said such people are devoid of the love of God. But look at reality, lovers of Jesus or Yahweh love the world and the things in the world. In fact, here in the west, I know people are in love with the world and the things in the world, materialistic to sinful things in eyes of Yahweh, yet they love God and Jesus.
It just seems not be a real description of reality.
Aside from that, what does the world mean? People know we should love much of the world, so what is meant only specific vain things in the world, which is to me, avoiding the words, and making a new sentence out of it.
Rather it seems the people whom were total ascetics were more on par with this verse, but even they can't help but love many of the good things in the world.
Therefore if you look at interpretation, they basically say "no it's ok to love the world and what's in the world, but really you shoudn't...etc..." and have their on specificness while the verse is vast.
3) Believers - and contradictory promises.
Believers can disobey God, for example, they can be materialistic, yet they are promised to hell on one hand, and paradise on the other if they do.
I take it you are aware of the verses that condemn those whom don't obey God and his commandments, and you are aware of the verses that promise all those whom believe salvation.
It's contradictory in my view.
4) all sorts of contradictions of the bible I've read ab6out online but haven't heard both sides on the issue, but rather seem to me be errors yet.
This a factor. I haven't heard all defense for them, but some of them really feel indefensible.
5) A God that punishes people for not believing in a religion and tortures them, doesn't seem to be an ultimately great being.
6) Believers can be worse people then disbelievers and vice versa. Disbelievers can be better people then believers and vice versa.
It seems rather unjust that all disbelievers will be condemned and all believers will be saved.
7) No matter what Christians say, I know my family very well, and I know they are good people. Nothing will convince me that they are bad people deserving to be in hell or far away from God. Sorry...but I know them to be really good people.
8) I believe in mercy of all by principle we should love for others what we love for ourselves, and God's love is suppose to be higher then ours, so I don't think hell in light of that stands to reason.
9) The Bible feels very boring and feels like bad literature, and I wouldn't attribute to brilliant minds, let alone the greatest mind in the universe.
1) The trinity.
It seems if they are all distinct, then they are three gods, each being worthy of worship. And it seems this was the want to worship Jesus and God at the same time, but they wanted to blind people to this fact with sophistry.
So they say the father and son and holy spirit are all one god.
But if this is true, then it means the father and the son are the same. And it would mean that God is both the father of himself and the son of himself.
This is of course non sense. If God is appearing in three persons, then he is appearing as son of himself and father of himself which makes no sense either.
At any rate, I don't buy into trinity, and I would say Christianity worships Jesus as well as the father, which makes two gods already, which makes them not monotheistic.
Further to this, is that the father is said to be greater then Jesus, which means they are not identical.
2) Love of world and the things in the world
It's not only forbidden to love the world and the things in the world, it is said such people are devoid of the love of God. But look at reality, lovers of Jesus or Yahweh love the world and the things in the world. In fact, here in the west, I know people are in love with the world and the things in the world, materialistic to sinful things in eyes of Yahweh, yet they love God and Jesus.
It just seems not be a real description of reality.
Aside from that, what does the world mean? People know we should love much of the world, so what is meant only specific vain things in the world, which is to me, avoiding the words, and making a new sentence out of it.
Rather it seems the people whom were total ascetics were more on par with this verse, but even they can't help but love many of the good things in the world.
Therefore if you look at interpretation, they basically say "no it's ok to love the world and what's in the world, but really you shoudn't...etc..." and have their on specificness while the verse is vast.
3) Believers - and contradictory promises.
Believers can disobey God, for example, they can be materialistic, yet they are promised to hell on one hand, and paradise on the other if they do.
I take it you are aware of the verses that condemn those whom don't obey God and his commandments, and you are aware of the verses that promise all those whom believe salvation.
It's contradictory in my view.
4) all sorts of contradictions of the bible I've read ab6out online but haven't heard both sides on the issue, but rather seem to me be errors yet.
This a factor. I haven't heard all defense for them, but some of them really feel indefensible.
5) A God that punishes people for not believing in a religion and tortures them, doesn't seem to be an ultimately great being.
6) Believers can be worse people then disbelievers and vice versa. Disbelievers can be better people then believers and vice versa.
It seems rather unjust that all disbelievers will be condemned and all believers will be saved.
7) No matter what Christians say, I know my family very well, and I know they are good people. Nothing will convince me that they are bad people deserving to be in hell or far away from God. Sorry...but I know them to be really good people.
8) I believe in mercy of all by principle we should love for others what we love for ourselves, and God's love is suppose to be higher then ours, so I don't think hell in light of that stands to reason.
9) The Bible feels very boring and feels like bad literature, and I wouldn't attribute to brilliant minds, let alone the greatest mind in the universe.
