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Maybe I never was a Christian?
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RE: Maybe I never was a Christian?
(September 22, 2012 at 7:58 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: You left out the part that if your baseless assumption is false, and there is nothing to indicate it is not

I am not trying to prove anything in this thread, I'm simply wanting to correct wrong beliefs in regard to Christian doctrines.

(September 22, 2012 at 7:58 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: , then you will waste the only life you have and miss opportunities all

I don't feel like I'm wasting my life. I have a steady job, a wife, we just bought a house recently, we now have a 5 month old little girl we named Allison, and we have met people that have quickly become a second family at our church. It's been a great life.

What opportunities am I missing?

(September 22, 2012 at 7:58 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: under the illusion that you have some special access to a trans-dimensional plane where you live for ever and have your every need catered for. Have you ever actually said that aloud? Because it sounds like the very definition of wishful thinking.

It does sound crazy, but technically that's not what Christian believe heaven is. Your description of heaven makes it sound like if you get there God is going to serve you for eternity. Christians believe that heaven is bliss simply because you are in the near presence of the creator of all reality. Heaven is great because God is there, not because I am waited on and catered to as if I were some sort of god. The joy of heaven is that I can worship God and give Him glory for all of eternity.

(September 22, 2012 at 7:58 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Its also a form of wishful thinking religion is all too happy to move the goal posts to humour. First the soul is an actual organ in the body, then after the first autopsy its suddenly "metaphysical". We're centre of the universe... oh fuck, nevermind. The Bible is literal, oh wait... no turns out thats impossible... ok its metaphorical. Can someone listen to this shameless bartering without realizing they are listening to tricksters redefining the parameters of their illusion to better fool their audience?

These are great points and very true. Great critique!

(September 22, 2012 at 7:58 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Regardless of how short it is, your life will be wasted under the guise of a fantasy.

If your worldview is correct then life itself seems to be a waste. No meaning, no purpose, we simply...are.

The Christian worldview gives purpose and meaning to life. You could even argue that even if atheism is true beyond a shadow of a doubt, a life lived under Christian beliefs could be seen to be very fulfilling because of the hope that it instills.
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Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Dumac Dwarfking - September 14, 2012 at 1:59 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by JohnDG - September 14, 2012 at 2:03 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Dumac Dwarfking - September 14, 2012 at 2:13 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Reasonable_Jeff - September 20, 2012 at 7:09 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by jonb - September 20, 2012 at 8:33 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by System of Solace - September 20, 2012 at 6:44 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Reasonable_Jeff - September 21, 2012 at 1:48 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Simon Moon - September 22, 2012 at 12:52 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Reasonable_Jeff - September 22, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Creed of Heresy - September 21, 2012 at 8:14 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Reasonable_Jeff - September 21, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Reforged - September 22, 2012 at 7:58 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Dumac Dwarfking - September 22, 2012 at 8:05 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Reasonable_Jeff - September 22, 2012 at 10:05 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Reforged - September 22, 2012 at 9:58 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by JohnDG - September 14, 2012 at 2:18 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Minimalist - September 14, 2012 at 2:24 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Dumac Dwarfking - September 14, 2012 at 2:24 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Fryslân - September 14, 2012 at 3:29 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Polaris - September 14, 2012 at 3:13 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Dumac Dwarfking - September 14, 2012 at 3:20 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Polaris - September 14, 2012 at 3:22 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Dumac Dwarfking - September 14, 2012 at 3:24 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Polaris - September 14, 2012 at 3:26 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Dumac Dwarfking - September 14, 2012 at 3:32 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Polaris - September 14, 2012 at 3:36 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Dumac Dwarfking - September 14, 2012 at 3:41 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Creed of Heresy - September 20, 2012 at 3:21 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Tino - September 22, 2012 at 8:04 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Mister Agenda - September 14, 2012 at 9:57 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Tino - September 22, 2012 at 8:06 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by JohnDG - September 14, 2012 at 3:47 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Dumac Dwarfking - September 14, 2012 at 3:50 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Polaris - September 14, 2012 at 9:54 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Dumac Dwarfking - September 14, 2012 at 10:02 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Polaris - September 14, 2012 at 9:09 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Fryslân - September 14, 2012 at 3:55 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by The Grand Nudger - September 14, 2012 at 8:32 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by jonb - September 14, 2012 at 10:09 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Minimalist - September 14, 2012 at 9:14 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by The Grand Nudger - September 19, 2012 at 6:18 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by FallentoReason - September 19, 2012 at 8:25 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by jonb - September 19, 2012 at 9:06 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by MysticKnight - September 20, 2012 at 12:46 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by genkaus - September 20, 2012 at 2:50 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by MysticKnight - September 20, 2012 at 12:49 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by genkaus - September 20, 2012 at 12:53 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by MysticKnight - September 20, 2012 at 1:02 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by genkaus - September 20, 2012 at 6:43 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Reforged - September 21, 2012 at 8:53 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Mister Agenda - September 21, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by MysticKnight - September 21, 2012 at 3:44 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by genkaus - September 21, 2012 at 3:51 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Creed of Heresy - September 21, 2012 at 9:04 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Dumac Dwarfking - September 22, 2012 at 6:20 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by KichigaiNeko - September 22, 2012 at 7:38 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by jonb - September 22, 2012 at 8:35 am
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by The Grand Nudger - September 22, 2012 at 12:26 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Reasonable_Jeff - September 22, 2012 at 1:19 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by pocaracas - September 22, 2012 at 1:29 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by The Grand Nudger - September 22, 2012 at 9:10 pm
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian? - by Whatkins - September 23, 2012 at 6:40 am

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