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Another hero cop
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RE: Another hero cop
(September 23, 2012 at 7:30 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: Seriously, do you just go aggressive the second someone disagrees with you? Because thats what it feels like.

I get tired of people playing zero sum games with justice, as if a cold corpse can testify to anything other than itself being a corpse. That is cold.

I get tired of setting dickheads straight because they can't be arsed to establish a procedural standard of reasoned expectations.

I get tired of s-p-e-l-l-i-n-g it out to morons who don't immediately state "This is highly unusual. A man missing a leg and an arm against two full armed, fully abled deputies?" but go so far as to assume "defending oneself". It boggles the mind at the judgment you assign.

(September 23, 2012 at 7:30 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: I'm usually the last person to defend authority but its unfair to pin this solely on the cop.
No, it shouldn't of happened but its unfair to blame a cop for defending himself.

First off, you must establish:
A) Deadly force was justified
B) Other options were rendered inaccessible or already exhausted
C) "Defending oneself" was necessary (IE that there was an attack)

You've jumped the gun and have chosen to defend the cop without establishing a standard of reasonable expectations.

That is not making a reasonable statement. It assumes several things. Without evidence to show, it reeks of an ideological statement.


(September 23, 2012 at 7:30 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: You think he wanted to shoot a guy in a wheel chair? Just had a bad day and thought "huh, you know something? I'm going to shoot a cripple today."? I sincerely doubt he'd have got in melee range if that were the case. He probably thought it was just a routine disturbance that would prove uneventful.
You don't expect a guy in a wheel chair to try and stab you and with your back against the wall you're not going to have time to think of another solution.
Don't compare that situation where aload of cops used a guy for target practice with more than enough time to detain the suspect through other means to this. This suspect had a history of mental illness, appeared to have a weapon with the intention of using it and was close range attempting to stab the officer. Next time you've just come from the crime scene of a brutal stabbing then get landed in that situation lets see what solution you come up with to avoid being gutted.
Its not remotely comparable.

The above is all conjecture and potential bullshit. It also meets the mold of ideology, as it assumes several things about human beings and how they act.

I do not care an iota for the human condition and mind games you've described above. For all you know, there are police officers who'd get some jollies from killing someone.

What I do note is that the standards of use of deadly force have not been established.

I do note that the alleged assailant is restricted to a wheel chair.

I also note that there normally are two police officers, equipped with tasers and billy clubs, as well as service weapons.

Service weapons are designed to kill and are expected as such, of which has a standard of qualifiers to use deadly force. Use of deadly force when it is not required is considered misconduct and potentially criminal.
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Another hero cop - by Minimalist - September 23, 2012 at 1:57 am
RE: Another hero cop - by Waratah - September 23, 2012 at 3:06 am
RE: Another hero cop - by kılıç_mehmet - September 23, 2012 at 4:51 am
RE: Another hero cop - by Kayenneh - September 23, 2012 at 4:55 am
RE: Another hero cop - by kılıç_mehmet - September 23, 2012 at 4:59 am
RE: Another hero cop - by downbeatplumb - September 23, 2012 at 6:08 am
RE: Another hero cop - by Tino - September 23, 2012 at 6:17 am
RE: Another hero cop - by Haydn - September 23, 2012 at 6:46 am
RE: Another hero cop - by TaraJo - September 23, 2012 at 9:42 am
RE: Another hero cop - by Reforged - September 23, 2012 at 9:58 am
RE: Another hero cop - by Darkstar - September 23, 2012 at 4:05 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by Reforged - September 23, 2012 at 4:55 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by Darkstar - September 23, 2012 at 4:57 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by Reforged - September 23, 2012 at 4:58 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by Minimalist - September 23, 2012 at 12:04 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by Reforged - September 23, 2012 at 1:09 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by Tino - September 23, 2012 at 1:46 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by TaraJo - September 23, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by Reforged - September 23, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by Minimalist - September 23, 2012 at 2:58 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by cratehorus - September 23, 2012 at 4:17 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by Minimalist - September 23, 2012 at 7:00 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by Autumnlicious - September 23, 2012 at 6:23 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by Faith No More - September 23, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by Reforged - September 23, 2012 at 7:30 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by Autumnlicious - September 23, 2012 at 8:20 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by Reforged - September 23, 2012 at 8:35 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by TaraJo - September 23, 2012 at 10:41 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by Reforged - September 23, 2012 at 10:45 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by Autumnlicious - September 23, 2012 at 11:08 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by TaraJo - September 23, 2012 at 11:11 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by Autumnlicious - September 23, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RE: Another hero cop - by Reforged - September 24, 2012 at 6:04 am

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