(September 25, 2012 at 12:52 pm)Tino Wrote:(September 25, 2012 at 4:49 am)Ciel_Rouge Wrote: In the US a father decided to have his baby boy circumcised "to be like his father". Is it OK or not?
Yes it's OK. I support it for the same idea that I support a woman's right to choose regarding abortion. It's a complicated issue with many short and long term implications, religious overtones, societal norms, etc. Ultimately the decision is best made by the mother (in the case of an abortion) or by the parent (in the case of religious rites, medical treatments, etc.) The state should have the power to act, only in the extreme situation of a late abortion or if the parental decision is placing the child in immediate jeopardy.
It is OK to mutilate an infant who is unable to resist or express own view in any form? Interestingly, circumcision has recently become illegal in Germany and is regarded a criminal offense. In the US people launch legal suit against hospitals who mutilated them in the past and apply for reconstructive surgery. I sort of get the impression that you forget you were a child yourself once and just don't care now, just want to feel the power you have over them as some sort of compensation.
(September 25, 2012 at 12:52 pm)Tino Wrote:Ciel_Rouge datelineBedtime is driven by a person's willingness to go to sleep. If it is not, you are either in jail or in the military. I am not talking about staying up all night. I am talking about parents sending their children to bed MUCH too early "just because". Because they want to have power over them. And since a child is not willing or ready to sleep yet, they DO develop sleeping problems later on.
I've seen no science which supports your view.
[/quote' Wrote: Do you really need complicated research for this? If you put a child to bed too early they will either "cheat" and read a book or play computer games in bed or they will toss and turn for a LONG time before they actually fall asleep. And both leads to sleep disorders later on, especially if done on regular basis. This is why it is healthier to go to sleep when you feel like it, regardless of age.
(September 25, 2012 at 12:52 pm)Tino Wrote: [quote='Ciel_Rouge' pid='341199' dateline='1348562955']FORCEFUL FEEDING is FORCEFUL FEEDING. It can be done to prisoners etc. Why do this to your child? Food is a very personal choice.
Sorry but I just can't make the leap with you from expecting kids to eat a balanced diet which includes foods they might not like, to the forced stuffing done in Mauritania for tribal reasons.
Both are forced actions that lead to psychological trauma. The magnitude might be way different in the two cases, but both are basicall traumatizing a very young mind over something as vital and personal as food.
(September 25, 2012 at 12:52 pm)Tino Wrote:(September 25, 2012 at 4:49 am)Ciel_Rouge Wrote: On a side note, the chefs in Poland who appear on tv often admit they teach their children how to cook so that they can be independent and follow their own taste. I heard of 8 year olds preparing simple meals for themselves. What do you think about that?
As long as the child is supervised and kept safe I have no problem with it. I'm assuming here that the meals they've been taught to prepare are reasonably healthy meals, and not brownies for breakfast.
Chefs tend to promote real food with real meat and real vegetables so yes, the children are not preparing junk food. I suppose the reason why children sometimes crazy about junk food is that they usually do not really know real cooking and could not prepare a meal for themselves.
(September 25, 2012 at 12:52 pm)Tino Wrote: Treating a child like an adult person is a bad idea because the child isn't yet equipped to understand the implications of its decisions.
Well, there was once a book by a Japanese scientist who advocated talking normally to an infant instead of mocking to promote language acquisition. The result would be a person developing much faster intelectually. Perhaps we are dumbing our children down by treating them like complete retards.
