RE: Professor's Proposition: Only Two Logical Choices
September 26, 2012 at 3:03 pm
(This post was last modified: September 26, 2012 at 3:10 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(September 26, 2012 at 2:37 pm)Blackrook Wrote: Thank you for actually responding to what I've said. People should learn from your example.
Too bad you weren't able to learn from his example that agnostics can also be theists or atheists.
(September 25, 2012 at 8:38 pm)Blackrook Wrote: I have a lot of respect for agnostics. They at least are honest in saying there is no way to prove that God does not exist.
We're pretty much all agnostics, so thanks for the respect.
(September 25, 2012 at 8:38 pm)Blackrook Wrote: Atheists, on the other hand, assert that God does not exist, and then refuse to ever provide any proof for that assertion.
Here's where you founder. Agnosticism is a position on knowledge, that you have no way of knowing if God exists (weak agnosticism) or that there is no way of knowing if God exists (strong agnosticism). Atheism and theism are positions on belief, that you don't believe God exists (weak or agnostic atheism) or that you believe God doesn't exist (strong or gnostic atheism). You can be an agnostic theist or an agnostic atheist. Almost every atheist on this board is an agnostic atheist.
(September 25, 2012 at 8:38 pm)Blackrook Wrote: So its really impossible to argue with an atheist, because its a faith-based proposition that there is no God, not subject to critical analysis.
Except it isn't. It's just not finding other people's reasons for believing in God convincing.
(September 26, 2012 at 2:59 pm)Blackrook Wrote: Ha, ha, there are a lot of CATHOLICS who don't know anything about transubstantiation so I wouldn't expect knowledge of this doctrine would be superior in a group of non-Catholics.
An interesting factoid about atheists is that, on average, we know more about religion in general than most religious people (the Jews run a close second to us). We also, on average, know more about particular religions than most members of that particular religion, with a few exceptions. Catholics are not one of those exceptions. Evangelicals are, say what you want about them, they are more likely than the rest to actually read the Bible and go to church regularly.