RE: Comparing where the candidates stand on religion.
September 26, 2012 at 9:07 pm
(This post was last modified: September 26, 2012 at 9:12 pm by Whateverist.)
(September 25, 2012 at 3:02 pm)Napoléon Wrote:(September 24, 2012 at 6:21 pm)whateverist Wrote: Well you just keep faith with what you believe then. Blowhard man says there is no appreciable differences between the candidates in terms of their approach to religion.
I'll clarify one more time so you might get it.
What he said about either candidate with regards to their religious stance is irrelevant to the actual point he was making.
In actuality the presidential candidate can be whatever they wish, so long as the label themself a christian.
THE POINT:
American presidential candidates must call themselves christian. Otherwise there is more chance of a pig flying than them winning.
What you're saying with regards to who is or is not more christian, or the differences between them is not in any way diminishing Penn's overall point.
Sure, he may be wrong, there may be applicable differences, but what he was saying was that they don't bloody matter. So long as they call themselves christian.
In effect he has the exact same mindset as you when you say you would rather have a christian who is good at the job than an atheist who is awful. Why? Oh that's right, because he made the point that the label they choose to give themselves is actually completely irrelevant to getting the job done.
You get it now? Is it really that hard to understand? I put all the important bits in bold so you might more easily identify them.
No, I guess I haven't make it clear enough that I see that point and agree with him as far as that goes. Yes, I agree, that is the main point he seems to want to make. My objection is to something else I see him doing (which I've already identified), which I see as motivated and dishonest.
For someone who purports to put a lot of stock in rationality he sure isn't above persuasion based on bluster and rhetoric. He isn't really much of an intellectual.
(September 25, 2012 at 8:41 pm)Polaris Wrote: I used to care about religion in politics, but it is such a low issue compared to the poor state of the economy under Obama.
What in the world will it take for you to give up on the trickle down stuff? Kissing the asses of job creators and giving them all of the economic incentives has never accomplished anything except to increase economic disparity and threaten the middle class and the market that exists only so long as they do. It trashed the economy under Bush and we are still in recovery from that. Romney hasn't offered any reason to think he'll do anything other than return to the ruinous ways of Bush. Just because Obama hasn't fixed it faster is no reason to put the team that broke it back in.
