(October 1, 2012 at 3:04 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Precisely, if -you- the claimant of this "free will" business cannot devise a test that could at least distinguish between the two (free will involved vs no free will involved)....-your- view...as the claimant, has what practical value or meaning?
I will attempt to suggest a test if you can tell me what your proposed "no-free-will" is. What controls the will if it is not free? If it is deterministic, then determined by who or what?
And if you think there is no practical value to either side of the issue, what is the point of the non-free-willers bringing it up? Is it just navel gazing?