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USA and it's fascination with religion
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RE: USA and it's fascination with religion
Quote:My answer to your question is that I do not know basically. I think it's a tough question why America is this way, because the founding fathers' aims were to keep America Secular

I don't mean to be difficult,really it's just that I've never understood that argument/comment.I've heard it used as you have and the polar opposite,usually from the lunar religious right. You're right,they're wrong. (See article 11 of The Treaty Of Tripoli)

BUT I was under the impression the USA was a Democratic type country.That its constitution may be (and has been ) changed to reflect the needs of 'we the people'. Surely the intentions of the founders are irrelevant



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Treaty Of Tripoli 1797


Quote:Article 11

Article 11 has been a point of contention in disputes on the doctrine of separation of church and state as it applies to the founding principles of the United States.
Article 11

Article 11 reads:

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

Advocates of the separation of church and state claim[17] that this text constitutes evidence that the United States Government was not founded on the Christian religion. The Senate's ratification was only the third recorded unanimous vote of 339 votes taken. The treaty was printed in the Philadelphia Gazette and two New York papers, with no evidence of any public dissent.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_T...Article_11
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Messages In This Thread
USA and it's fascination with religion - by Shinylight - September 19, 2009 at 4:36 pm
RE: USA and it's fascination with religion - by Dotard - September 19, 2009 at 5:26 pm
RE: USA and it's fascination with religion - by fr0d0 - September 19, 2009 at 5:34 pm
RE: USA and it's fascination with religion - by AtheistPhil - September 19, 2009 at 5:52 pm
RE: USA and it's fascination with religion - by Minimalist - September 19, 2009 at 6:07 pm
RE: USA and it's fascination with religion - by Rhizomorph13 - September 19, 2009 at 6:44 pm
RE: USA and it's fascination with religion - by binny - September 19, 2009 at 9:11 pm
RE: USA and it's fascination with religion - by padraic - September 19, 2009 at 9:37 pm
RE: USA and it's fascination with religion - by binny - September 20, 2009 at 12:31 pm
RE: USA and it's fascination with religion - by fr0d0 - September 20, 2009 at 4:07 am
RE: USA and it's fascination with religion - by Retorth - September 20, 2009 at 4:34 am
RE: USA and it's fascination with religion - by Edwardo Piet - September 20, 2009 at 9:22 am
RE: USA and it's fascination with religion - by Retorth - September 20, 2009 at 10:07 am
RE: USA and it's fascination with religion - by neverinchurch - September 22, 2009 at 7:38 am
RE: USA and it's fascination with religion - by theblindferrengi - September 22, 2009 at 11:16 pm
RE: USA and it's fascination with religion - by padraic - September 23, 2009 at 6:30 am

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