(October 12, 2012 at 6:17 pm)Tino Wrote:(October 12, 2012 at 5:29 pm)festive1 Wrote: Every other statement that came out of Ryan's mouth was factually untrue... If you can win on lies, then I guess we've all lost.
Sigh...why can't dems just recognize disagreement for what it is, without having to accuse others of lying? What did Ryan "lie" about?
He lied about the effectiveness of the stimulus, saying it only went to Obama's cronies, which is untrue.
He lied about Iran's nuclear capabilities.
He blamed Obama for watering down the sanctions against Iran, then immediately said that it was Russia that watered them down, then went back to blaming Obama for the watered down sanctions. See, sanctions only work if all countries are willing to go along with them... Obama (or any president) doesn't have any control over what other countries like Russia and China do. So he put forth sanctions he thought would pass in the UN, rather than the proposed sanctions the Republican congress wanted. This is demonstrative of Obama's pragmatism rather than a failure on his part.
Ryan point-blank refused to answer questions regarding specifics of balancing the budget. Instead he implied that a plan would have to be worked out with congress, which is true enough. HOWEVER, one cannot promise to cut the deficit by a specific number without a plan as to how to achieve it (if it gets approved by congress or not is another matter entirely). I call this a lie of omission, he can't do what he's promising because it's not mathematically possible, which he won't admit, so he's all mysterious about how it's going to happen.
