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Intelligent design: could we do better?
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RE: Intelligent design: could we do better?
(October 14, 2012 at 11:51 am)IATIA Wrote: Research done.

Probably the most well known case of atavism is found in the whales. According to the standard phylogenetic tree, whales are known to be the descendants of terrestrial mammals that had hindlimbs. Thus, we expect the possibility that rare mutant whales might occasionally develop atavistic hindlimbs. In fact, there are many cases where whales have been found with rudimentary atavistic hindlimbs in the wild (see Figure 2.2.1; for reviews see Berzin 1972, pp. 65-67 and Hall 1984, pp. 90-93). Hindlimbs have been found in baleen whales (Sleptsov 1939), humpback whales (Andrews 1921) and in many specimens of sperm whales (Abel 1908; Berzin 1972, p. 66; Nemoto 1963; Ogawa and Kamiya 1957; Zembskii and Berzin 1961). Most of these examples are of whales with femurs, tibia, and fibulae; however, some even include feet with complete digits.

i was confronting the picture that was brought up. your source agrees the picture is of the bones are as i described. your source brings up different evidence of a different example.
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Intelligent design: could we do better? - by TaraJo - October 9, 2012 at 4:32 pm
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